T-bol experience on dosage.

Ok thanks for the input guys. I don't want this to get into a heated debate. I was only looking for some opinions. lol Ok last time I change. I am going to run it at 50mg for 4 weeks. I have just enough for this. I expect the gains to be lean and I won't complain if I "only put on" 4-6 lbs during my kickstart...I still have the last 7 weeks of Test-E to look forward too. I am sure I won't be to disappointed though for the overall cycle. I have virgin receptors so that should help at least a little.
I will try to post my results as they go on. Maybe weekly. I am not starting for another two weeks though. Thanks again guys.
 
You are pretty much stating what I just said. I already pointed out Dbol is stronger on a mg per mg basis, meaning you can take less of it to get the same mass gains that Tbol will yield at a higher dosage. I do not see how Dbol can give a person more mass than Tbol. The extra weight will all be water. If you are talking lean mass here, Tbol at 60mg will pretty much yield the same results as Dbol, just with a lot less water retention. Why would you want to control the water weight when taking Dbol? If you do that, you might as well be using Tbol.

and your point is??? I wasnt even talking to you bro...you were not involved in the convo...no disrespect intended
 
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What do you think about me throwing in some Clen the last 4 weeks of the cycle?
Should it be while on cycle or during post cycle therapy (pct)? Or not do it at all?
 
What do you think about me throwing in some Clen the last 4 weeks of the cycle?
Should it be while on cycle or during post cycle therapy (pct)? Or not do it at all?

I dont run clen ever...if I want to cut I change my diet...and if your running a bulk cycle then I wouldnt think you would even want to do it...

and be careful about getting greedy...no need to throw this and that into a cycle...a couple compounds at a time is plenty bro
 
i don't know much about all this, but i did just get done with a cycle of d-bol. i did get a little bloated at first, but then it went away pretty quick. it was the first time i ever used anything. i loved it no side effect here. was always ready to go. still have my gains. this is just what happened to me. i do not know cobra personally, but i read all these posts and he does know what he is talking about.
 
Well I don't really want to bulk a whole shit load and was hoping to burn off the fat that I might of gained while on. But I think your right Cobra...no need to throw something else into the mix. I will save it for a later date. I will just change my diet if need be for the last few weeks. I hope this thread helps out someone out there.
 
Well I don't really want to bulk a whole shit load and was hoping to burn off the fat that I might of gained while on. But I think your right Cobra...no need to throw something else into the mix. I will save it for a later date. I will just change my diet if need be for the last few weeks. I hope this thread helps out someone out there.

Diet can really affect your image bro...and I hate calling it "burning off fat"....I prefer saying "converting fat to muscle" lol
 
Holy shit Cobra. I just noticed you only joined a few months ago and you already have over 1500 posts!! Your a busy guy!! How do you find the time to stay so jacked!?!? I assume your eating the whole time while online lol.
 
Holy shit Cobra. I just noticed you only joined a few months ago and you already have over 1500 posts!! Your a busy guy!! How do you find the time to stay so jacked!?!? I assume your eating the whole time while online lol.

well some posts just say x2 and other dumb shit hahaha

but as a matter of fact I am sitting here printing off 50 drug profiles I had to do for pharmacology and I just finished off a half tub of cottage cheese with about 18 or so ounces of water..you caught me ;)
 
Just an update. I started my cycle two weeks ago. I decided not to kickstart with T-bol. I am not kickstarting it at all actually. I might add in the T-bol at 50mg or 60mg for 4 or 5 weeks at the last weeks of the cycle. It all depends on how it is going. Also it depends if my order arrives in time for the extra T-bol I need to run at these doses. I have some...but not enough for 60mg for 5 weeks. Either way I have everything else I need for PCT and on cycle so I am good either way. Any comments or questions are welcome.
 
The good thing about Tbol with test is that it reduces SHBG which provides you with more free test, which is what you want. I got a bunch free so started it in the late half of my cycle and within days I have had a drastic increase in appetite. Never had it happen before and never really heard of this happening but it's a welcomed effect. When I say drastic, I can't sleep more than 4 hours and wake up starving. I'm only using 50mg a day and will probably run 4 to 6 weeks depending on how I feel.

Let us know how your cycle turns out and it won't hurt to add it later. You can run it at a low dose to decrease SHBG but you might as well run a good dose if you are going to do it.
 
The good thing about Tbol with test is that it reduces SHBG which provides you with more free test, which is what you want. I got a bunch free so started it in the late half of my cycle and within days I have had a drastic increase in appetite. Never had it happen before and never really heard of this happening but it's a welcomed effect. When I say drastic, I can't sleep more than 4 hours and wake up starving. I'm only using 50mg a day and will probably run 4 to 6 weeks depending on how I feel.

Let us know how your cycle turns out and it won't hurt to add it later. You can run it at a low dose to decrease SHBG but you might as well run a good dose if you are going to do it.


Very good to know...thanks User. I hope I get the same increased hunger. I could use it. Usually I feel like I am force feeding myself.....I probally feel like that CAUSE I AM!
Maybe I will do 50mg ED like you did...we will see. If I do get the increased hunger I will just double up my Micellar Casein before bedtime. This usually helps me sleep straight through the night. If not than I will just have to have something next to the bed for a midnight snack lol. Keep me posted on how the T-bol is going for you with details! Thanks.
 
It was nice for me too. Ive been force feeding and haven't enjoyed eating for the past two months. I wish I could be somewhere in the middle but I'll take starving feeling for now.
 
Oh I have one more question...when are you dosing it? I think they are 10mg pills. So how are you doing it User. Twice a day? The half life is fairly short.....I think it is something like 7-9 hours but don't quote me on that. I was planning on twice a day...does it matter if you take it within a few hours before workouts? Or just as long as it is in your system within those times?
 
I believe it's 16 hours. Mine are 10mg also. I just take it 5 times throughout the day. Really depends on convenience. I have taken four an hour prior to training but there was no difference. I do this with all orals just to see but it never makes a difference. Basically I just spread them out and take whenever convenient.

Technically you want to maintain stable blood levels. Twice a day is perfectly fine. As long as you are taking the dose you want ED it really won't matter.
 
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