Taking TEST with/without DBOL + REPS +

[forsaken3400]

I keep reading that D-BOL will 'jumpstart' your cycle (Don't know if that's broscience)

The thing is that I want to take TEST-Deca by itself on my first cycle, to avoid getting some of the side effects of D-BOL like puffy face.


I keep reading that you make your biggest gains on the first cycle so its important to 'get the most out of it'.

I want to see how my body reacts to individual roids so i understand for the future.


Should I just take them together to get optimal results or will it not make a significant difference?


What are the exact reasons for taking PCT, is it a mild testerone agent? I keep reading about it regulates the conversion to estrogen or something... I don't really get it, can someone explain lol....

In your opinion what is the best testosterone to take first cycle ? I'm under the impression that the best is test-cypionate...

Thanks!

 

[blazer69]

I keep reading that D-BOL will 'jumpstart' your cycle (Don't know if that's broscience)

The thing is that I want to take TEST-Deca by itself on my first cycle, to avoid getting some of the side effects of D-BOL like puffy face.


I keep reading that you make your biggest gains on the first cycle so its important to 'get the most out of it'.

I want to see how my body reacts to individual roids so i understand for the future.


Should I just take them together to get optimal results or will it not make a significant difference?


What are the exact reasons for taking PCT, is it a mild testerone agent? I keep reading about it regulates the conversion to estrogen or something... I don't really get it, can someone explain lol....

In your opinion what is the best testosterone to take first cycle ? I'm under the impression that the best is test-cypionate...

Thanks!

No, u want to do just 500mg of test e/c for 10-12 weeks for first cycle.

Cycle:
Weeks 1-12....test enathate...500mg/week....250mg mon/thurs
Weeks 1-18....Aromasin 12.5mg everyday

PCT:

Weeks 15-18...clomid at 50mg per day
Weeks 15-16...nolvadex at 40mg per day
Weeks 17-18...nolva at 20mg per day


Also consider running HCG.

 

[weights=life]

If you get sides how the hell will you know whats causing them. Nandrolone can cause prolactin induced gyno that will not be prevented from an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Do your self a favor run test by its self you can still get great gains from that alone with a killer diet.

Hit up 3J in the diet forum dude is king in regards to diet and will help put weight on you. You could possibly gain thirty pounds with a test only cycle and 3Js help.

 

[forsaken3400]

hmm... how much of a calorie surplus do you recommend on this cycle? or do you just attempt linear weight gain?

 

[weights=life]

You should really get in touch with 3j hes forgotten more than i kno bout diets trust me you wont be disappointed.

 

[Malave16]

"What are the exact reasons for taking PCT, is it a mild testerone agent? I keep reading about it regulates the conversion to estrogen or something... I don't really get it, can someone explain lol...."

Kepp reading bro before u hurt urself. Tons of info on the stickies.

 

[ErectusMaximus]

Sir, it appears you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) confused with post cycle therapy (pct). Your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) basically protects you and the post cycle therapy (pct) recovers you. I gave the most vague explanation I could because I think you need to do more research buddy. Nothing wrong with educating yourself here.

Try not to do deca on your 1st cycle. I would stick with test only ( e or c they really are the same to us) and learn how to manage your Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Deca causes its own problems and you need to learn how to address each concern 1st.

The myth about your 1st cycle giving you the most gains is a bit false imo.

 

[forsaken3400]

yeah im not taking my first cycle for atleast 6 months honeslty i have tried reading the stickies but the INFORMATION is not NEWBIE FRIENDLY LOL ... all the acronyms and everything... its just not newbie friendly at all this is a horrible place to start, does anybody know any good books they'd recommend? thanks so much for your help

 

[R1rider]

^^ read all the stickys. if you are confused about a term or acronym, just google it. research, use the search function on this site. i understand the information can be overwhelming, but you gotta know it

and decca can also give you the puffy moon face

first cycle should be test only, test e/c 5-600mg/week for 10-12 weeks

 

[bigherm2121]

What are your stats? Age, weight, height, bf%

 

[R1rider]

^^ x 2 on that