Telling to my doctor i'm goin to take steroids?

NewBorn01

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Is that a good idea? or is it risky for me since steroids are illegal?

I mean i've got Oral Epistane , sold as a PH , so it must have the 'legit' statut .

I'd like to tell him , so he''ll be able to help me , or givin me advices in case i'll get bad side effects.
 
His advice would be not to take it. Anything else will cause him to lose his license. How old are you btw?
 
Is that a good idea? or is it risky for me since steroids are illegal?

I mean i've got Oral Epistane , sold as a PH , so it must have the 'legit' statut .

I'd like to tell him , so he''ll be able to help me , or givin me advices in case i'll get bad side effects.

Just do the blood tests and if something comes back wrong u tell him but theres no need to do so..

Btw, why do u still want to take this PH? jesus bro just toss it in the trash.. PHs are bullshit..

PH vs Test only cycle

Gains - - PH gives less gains than Test
Side effects (Bloat, Gyno, Hairloss, Acne, etc..) - PH gives you a lot more sides than Test
Libido - - PH will decrease your libido while Test will increase it
Liver Toxicity - PH is a lot more toxic to the liver than Test


Tell me again why you want to take a PH?

If u say that u r scared of needles then u shouldnt go near any steroids until u get over that fear.. srs bro im saying this cuz i want the best 4 u <3
 
Is that a good idea? or is it risky for me since steroids are illegal?

I mean i've got Oral Epistane , sold as a PH , so it must have the 'legit' statut .

I'd like to tell him , so he''ll be able to help me , or givin me advices in case i'll get bad side effects.

What you are doing isn't illegal because it is a PH. I believe the law says that PH can not be sold in retail stores, but you are allowed to possess them..? Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't fucked with PH for 5 years. When I did, it was tren xtreme from ACL. Best results I ever had in 4 weeks holy hell.

But no, I would not tell him anything. And you should need help from him anyways. You should figure out your on cycle support, post cycle support and all your other pills you need to properly take a PH.

Most general doctors do not know much about AAS, let alone an unstudied PH.
 
Just do the blood tests and if something comes back wrong u tell him but theres no need to do so..

Btw, why do u still want to take this PH? jesus bro just toss it in the trash.. PHs are bullshit..

PH vs Test only cycle

Gains - - PH gives less gains than Test
Side effects (Bloat, Gyno, Hairloss, Acne, etc..) - PH gives you a lot more sides than Test
Libido - - PH will decrease your libido while Test will increase it
Liver Toxicity - PH is a lot more toxic to the liver than Test


Tell me again why you want to take a PH?

If u say that u r scared of needles then u shouldnt go near any steroids until u get over that fear.. srs bro im saying this cuz i want the best 4 u <3

Very true. Don't be scared of needles. At the very least, get a hold of test cyp and pin once a week with your PH if thats really what you wanna do. But I'd advise against that.
 
His advice would be not to take it. Anything else will cause him to lose his license. How old are you btw?

This is pretty spot on.

Just do the blood tests and if something comes back wrong u tell him but theres no need to do so..

Btw, why do u still want to take this PH? jesus bro just toss it in the trash.. PHs are bullshit..

PH vs Test only cycle

Gains - - PH gives less gains than Test
Side effects (Bloat, Gyno, Hairloss, Acne, etc..) - PH gives you a lot more sides than Test
Libido - - PH will decrease your libido while Test will increase it
Liver Toxicity - PH is a lot more toxic to the liver than Test


Tell me again why you want to take a PH?

If u say that u r scared of needles then u shouldnt go near any steroids until u get over that fear.. srs bro im saying this cuz i want the best 4 u <3

To bad Epistane isn't a PH, it's a methylated oral steroid just like anadrol, or dianabol, or anavar(results closest to anavar).

You really consider oral steroids bullshit? So what about when M1T or SD or Phera were in the PH/Designer steroid category?

As for Gains, a good portion of methylated designer steroids are extremely potent much beyond injectable test, just due to their hepatotoxic nature they cannot be run for as long a duration. So your wrong with that point.

Oral steroids will cause side effects but so with injectable test. Test undergoes aromatization into estrogen and will cause bloat and gyno, test undergoes 5a reduction and will cause hairloss. If your running a substance structurally incapable of aromatization less of a risk of bloat or gyno, if your running a 19-nor substance the 5a reduced versions are not anywhere near as androgenic as DHT so no worry of hairloss.

There is nothing wrong with a 4-6 week cycle of an oral steroid at reasonable doses with proper supports. Some people just don't want to inject themselves, or situationally prohibited, a lot less suspect taking a pill then purchasing/using/disposing of syringes.

What you are doing isn't illegal because it is a PH. I believe the law says that PH can not be sold in retail stores, but you are allowed to possess them..? Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't fucked with PH for 5 years. When I did, it was tren xtreme from ACL. Best results I ever had in 4 weeks holy hell.

But no, I would not tell him anything. And you should need help from him anyways. You should figure out your on cycle support, post cycle support and all your other pills you need to properly take a PH.

Most general doctors do not know much about AAS, let alone an unstudied PH.

It's technically not illegal because it isn't on a controlled substances list, not because it's a PH as you are so calling it. Their technically in a gray area because they are not naturally occurring and by definition are unapproved drugs by the FDA.

Very true. Don't be scared of needles. At the very least, get a hold of test cyp and pin once a week with your PH if thats really what you wanna do. But I'd advise against that.

Whats wrong with low dose cyp crusing while blasting orals with proper cycle support?

People on this site will help you more than a doctor will! Probably smarter too. Don't do it

Doctors have medical degree's for a reason, it is unlikely that people on the internet are anywhere near as knowledgeable about overall wellness of the human body as a doctor is.

We can give user based experience on these products we use, but for actually medical advise always consult a licensed medical professional.
 
This is pretty spot on.



To bad Epistane isn't a PH, it's a methylated oral steroid just like anadrol, or dianabol, or anavar(results closest to anavar).

You really consider oral steroids bullshit? So what about when M1T or SD or Phera were in the PH/Designer steroid category?

As for Gains, a good portion of methylated designer steroids are extremely potent much beyond injectable test, just due to their hepatotoxic nature they cannot be run for as long a duration. So your wrong with that point.

Oral steroids will cause side effects but so with injectable test. Test undergoes aromatization into estrogen and will cause bloat and gyno, test undergoes 5a reduction and will cause hairloss. If your running a substance structurally incapable of aromatization less of a risk of bloat or gyno, if your running a 19-nor substance the 5a reduced versions are not anywhere near as androgenic as DHT so no worry of hairloss.

There is nothing wrong with a 4-6 week cycle of an oral steroid at reasonable doses with proper supports. Some people just don't want to inject themselves, or situationally prohibited, a lot less suspect taking a pill then purchasing/using/disposing of syringes.



It's technically not illegal because it isn't on a controlled substances list, not because it's a PH as you are so calling it. Their technically in a gray area because they are not naturally occurring and by definition are unapproved drugs by the FDA.



Whats wrong with low dose cyp crusing while blasting orals with proper cycle support?



Doctors have medical degree's for a reason, it is unlikely that people on the internet are anywhere near as knowledgeable about overall wellness of the human body as a doctor is.

We can give user based experience on these products we use, but for actually medical advise always consult a licensed medical professional.


I'm 21 , i do live in Europe.

I'm gonna do : Epi oral 30/45/45/45/45/45 + some Dermacrine ( for DHEA , libido lethargy ) + ar1macare pro ( a cycle support ) + hawthorn berry + milk thirstle , for 6 weeks , then 4 weeks PCT : Nolva 20/20/10/10 '( or more dosed? ) + a Test booster.

Can it damage my HPTA for life? i mean will i have lower natural Test levels after this cycle? cause i won't do a lot of cycles , i just heard that the first one give the best results , so i'd like to run one , and maybe one more in 2 years .

Thanks for your help everyone
 
Just do the blood tests and if something comes back wrong u tell him but theres no need to do so..

Btw, why do u still want to take this PH? jesus bro just toss it in the trash.. PHs are bullshit..

PH vs Test only cycle

Gains - - PH gives less gains than Test
Side effects (Bloat, Gyno, Hairloss, Acne, etc..) - PH gives you a lot more sides than Test
Libido - - PH will decrease your libido while Test will increase it
Liver Toxicity - PH is a lot more toxic to the liver than Test


Tell me again why you want to take a PH?

If u say that u r scared of needles then u shouldnt go near any steroids until u get over that fear.. srs bro im saying this cuz i want the best 4 u <3

I ain't scared of needles , but it seems more complicated , and i still live with my parents , i don't want them to know that ofc.
I think pills are easier to use/hide atm , but yea i know that it's not good for the liver , but i'll take protection for it , hope it 'll works.

The main thing that scares me , is how bad my Test levels will be affected after the cycle , i mean if i go from 600 to 300 , that sucks.. i won't be motivate to continue
 
Ill never forget the kid on here that needed pct asap cause his mom cleaned his room found his juice and tossed it. What bad way to fuck up your mojo mid cycle.
 
Is that a good idea? or is it risky for me since steroids are illegal?

I mean i've got Oral Epistane , sold as a PH , so it must have the 'legit' statut .

I'd like to tell him , so he''ll be able to help me , or givin me advices in case i'll get bad side effects.

In an ideal world you would not only be able to tell him you use steroids, but get a script too. I don't know bro, that may be a little too honest.

LP
 
Doctors do not care at all! I was amazed when my wife and I started juicing and would tell the docs when at their offices. They just recorded in their charts and went on. I even asked my wifes dr. if the steroids she was cycling would conflict her prescriptions, he just said, "NAAHHH" and carried on as normal. They could care less. After all, they are just legal drug dealers.
 
Doctors do not care at all! I was amazed when my wife and I started juicing and would tell the docs when at their offices. They just recorded in their charts and went on. I even asked my wifes dr. if the steroids she was cycling would conflict her prescriptions, he just said, "NAAHHH" and carried on as normal. They could care less. After all, they are just legal drug dealers.

I would say that is not the norm when it comes to dealing with medical professionals.
 
I had already read the thread on Oral anabolic steroid cycles , that's why i want to add Dermacrine ( DHEA ) to the cycle , i don't want to buy test atm , and some people told me that DHEA transdermal could replace the test.
Well , i'll live with my parents for a long time , lol.

I won't tell my doctor then , but he'll ask me why i want prescription for blood works lol , he ll think it's strange , cause i want to do a bloodwork before the cycle , one during, and one after.

So , oral epi + DHEA transdermal ( Dermacrine ) , would be ok ? or it's not enough
 
This is pretty spot on.



To bad Epistane isn't a PH, it's a methylated oral steroid just like anadrol, or dianabol, or anavar(results closest to anavar).

You really consider oral steroids bullshit? So what about when M1T or SD or Phera were in the PH/Designer steroid category?

As for Gains, a good portion of methylated designer steroids are extremely potent much beyond injectable test, just due to their hepatotoxic nature they cannot be run for as long a duration. So your wrong with that point.

Oral steroids will cause side effects but so with injectable test. Test undergoes aromatization into estrogen and will cause bloat and gyno, test undergoes 5a reduction and will cause hairloss. If your running a substance structurally incapable of aromatization less of a risk of bloat or gyno, if your running a 19-nor substance the 5a reduced versions are not anywhere near as androgenic as DHT so no worry of hairloss.

There is nothing wrong with a 4-6 week cycle of an oral steroid at reasonable doses with proper supports. Some people just don't want to inject themselves, or situationally prohibited, a lot less suspect taking a pill then purchasing/using/disposing of syringes.



It's technically not illegal because it isn't on a controlled substances list, not because it's a PH as you are so calling it. Their technically in a gray area because they are not naturally occurring and by definition are unapproved drugs by the FDA.



Whats wrong with low dose cyp crusing while blasting orals with proper cycle support?



Doctors have medical degree's for a reason, it is unlikely that people on the internet are anywhere near as knowledgeable about overall wellness of the human body as a doctor is.

We can give user based experience on these products we use, but for actually medical advise always consult a licensed medical professional.

There's nothing wrong with low dose of test c and epi, but I would advice against it because there are FAR better options out there.

As for the telling your doctor. No, do not tell your doctor. You may have a difficult time in the future getting life insurance, and he most likely wont know WTF you are talking about. I went to the doctor because I wanted to get some script AI because the stuff I got from a well known research supplier was bunk. My estro was off the charts. He said he had NEVER heard of a male taking HCG, also tried to convince me that my AI was the cause of my gyno........so I don't give a hell if a doctor has a medical degree unless he specializes as an endo or anabolics.

Of course you need to be wary of all the shit uneducated kids spew on here..... I would NOT go fishing for advice like you are on the forum with posting threads. Go to the STICKY section and read read read. Go to a different website and forum and read more stickies.

If you wanna cycle and want to make it as simple as possible, I would hit cyp and an oral of your choice depending on your gains. Personally I hate epi. Tried it once when it was in havoc about 6 years ago and was trash. That's just me though and that was PRE ban. Get yourself some anavar if you can afford it.
 
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