I'll be starting deca this upcoming week as my first cycle. I was going to start it initially at a small dose of 50mg just to see how I tolerate the drug. Week 2.. 50-100mg then so on. My question is what is the smallest dose of test c I can run as a base? (50-100mg) can I run it weekly with the deca? I know not to run the deca alone, although I know ppl that have and loved their results but I know its frowned upon here, so thats why Im looking for answers.. Im 5'9", 178lb, 17% BF. Work out 5 days a week. I have nolva as a PCT. I do have to run Aromatase inhibitor (AI) while on the deca and test correct? any help is greatly appreciated.
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2rude4u
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Yes there is a wealth of knowledge here. The fact that your attitude indicates you will do whatever you want anyways, means you won't listen to any of this knowledge.
But incase you wise up... Test only first cycle @ 250 tpw, run Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at .25 eod and adjust as needed. See RUI banner for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) products.
goforbroke
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The doses you are talking about are so insignificant they wouldn't do anything for you..
halfwit
I like turtles.
No, you may purchase AI's from research chemical companies like Rui, the red-lion logo at the top of this page. The chemicals are not intended for human use, but what one does in the privacy of their own home is their own business.
halfwit
I like turtles.
Oral.
stronglats
Elite outcast
If you're a beginner you may want to skip testosterone e or c for the first cycle. I should advice you to start with d-bol (30-50 mg per day), deca (250 mg per week) and sustanon (250 mg per week). It is desirable that the cycle takes about 8 weeks. The use of Nolvadex/Tamoxifen is recommended.
buster blood vessel
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Why are you advising him to take multiple compounds on his firs cycle?
how`s he going to know how he`s reacting to each drug?
cbman2184
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Read stickys dude. That is horrible advice for a first cycle.
Test only cycle with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and proper PCT is what you need for first cycle.
buster blood vessel
Member
Why are you so stuck on deca and against test?
do you have joint problems or something?
halfwit
I like turtles.
300mg/wk is barely giving you more than you're replacing. Read the sticky on 300mg vs 600mg to get a better understanding on why 500mg/wk is recommended. An Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for that dose (300) is still recommended btw.
Dude, stop posting this. Seriously. You have NO clue on what you're recommending and it will only potentially mess him up. Let me tell you why:
1) Dianabol is a very "wet" compound that aromatizes HEAVILY. I'm not saying it's not a great compound to use, but it's simply not a good idea for a newbie to start off with a drug that has such a high propensity for estrogen sides. It's GREAT for later cycles, but not until someone has the hang of how their body works with AAS and knows how to control those sides.
2) Using more than compound at once for the first time makes it VERY difficult if not impossible to tell which drug is causing what sides. This is why taking it slow and going simple is recommended. If you know how you react to testosterone, and then take dbol later, you'll know it's the dbol causing whatever sides you experience. Starting out is tough enough as is, why make it even harder on the guy?
3) Deca being a 19-nor has it's own set of sides that need to be recognized and understood. Sure, the joint lubing properties and mild androgenic qualities make this a great compound, but do YOU know what prolactin-induced sides are? Ever heard of Deca-dick? There are more variables to take into account when adding such a compound. This is a great second cycle addition, AFTER people know how to handle test by itself.
4) Glad you know what Nolvadex is, shame it won't do much for aromatization which causes elevated blood pressure, bloat, prostate issues, mood swings, acne, and many other sides that you simply can't "feel". Nolva is used during PCT as a SERM prevents estrogen from binding to breast tissue. It doesn't do anything for prolactin/progesterone induced gyno nor does it lower estradiol as mentioned above.
5) 8 week cycle with sustanon? You're aware that sust contains 4 different esters; 3 of which have a long release time, right? That means it takes roughly 4 weeks for it to even kick in, then you end the cycle 4 weeks later? What a waste of blood serum ramp time imo. Notice from the copy/paste below what the half-lives are and how test E/C relate:
stronglats
Elite outcast
halfwit,
thanks for the detailed explanation that will be very helpful to a beginner. You know what they say: the more you complicate the more you going back to the beginning.. with all respect.
thanks for the detailed explanation that will be very helpful to a beginner. You know what they say: the more you complicate the more you going back to the beginning.. with all respect.
halfwit
I like turtles.
I just try to keep it simple friend. AAS is a fantastic tool, but you have to keep in mind that many have no idea what this stuff does and how risky it can be. I suppose I prefer the saying: "Learn to walk before you run". Let them stack 3-5 compounds once they're done crawling so to speak.
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