Test Cyp starter cycle confusion

[Marshall911]

I'm currently taking a prescription of testosterone cyp at 100 mg/.5 ml per week. This is because my natural testosterone is already low. I am 6'4, 210lbs and 29 years old. That being said I am looking to do my first cycle. I already have a very strong clean diet and gym routine. I am looking to gain some lean mass without having a lot of water weight and keeping my side effects to a minimum.

I am interested in doing a starters test only cycle for 8 to 10 weeks. I feel like I have read 10,000 different posts and everyone seems to say something a little different. It is especially difficult to figure out because I already take testosterone for medical use. I know that I can get my hands on both test cyp and arimidex. From what I have gathered the following seems to be my best bet. I would love some feedback and hope it's possible to do a short beginner cycle with just test cyp and


Wk 1-10: 400 or 500mg of test cyp
Wk 11 and on: return back to my medical dosage of 100mg per wk

Wk 1-12: .5mg ED of arimidex
Wk 13-14: .5mg EOD of arimidex
Wk 15: .25 EOD of arimidex

Any advice would really help me out. Thanks!

 

[DickBlazer]

Looks good. I'd probably run 500 mg minimum. Not sure if you'll need that much adex everyday though. I would definitely need it but some guys don't. I'd probably run .5 eod and adjust from there. Some vets will surely chime in

 

[halfwit]

I'm currently taking a prescription of testosterone cyp at 100 mg/.5 ml per week. This is because my natural testosterone is already low. I am 6'4, 210lbs and 29 years old. That being said I am looking to do my first cycle. I already have a very strong clean diet and gym routine. I am looking to gain some lean mass without having a lot of water weight and keeping my side effects to a minimum.

I am interested in doing a starters test only cycle for 8 to 10 weeks. I feel like I have read 10,000 different posts and everyone seems to say something a little different. It is especially difficult to figure out because I already take testosterone for medical use. I know that I can get my hands on both test cyp and arimidex. From what I have gathered the following seems to be my best bet. I would love some feedback and hope it's possible to do a short beginner cycle with just test cyp and


Wk 1-10: 400 or 500mg of test cyp
Wk 11 and on: return back to my medical dosage of 100mg per wk

Wk 1-12: .5mg ED of arimidex
Wk 13-14: .5mg EOD of arimidex
Wk 15: .25 EOD of arimidex

Any advice would really help me out. Thanks!

How long have you been on TRT? That ultimately decides when you can start experimenting.

 

[Marshall911]

How long have you been on TRT? That ultimately decides when you can start experimenting.

I've been on T for about 2 years.

 

[halfwit]

I've been on T for about 2 years.

Then you should be at six month intervals or so between Dr ordered blood work I assume?

Double check to ensure that the timing of your cycle doesn't coincide with said test, or you're in for a bumpy ride in trying to rearrange things in a very inconvenient manner. FYI: it takes about a month to return to your prescribed levels, so plan accordingly.

You are correct in that you simply return to your prescribed dose the following shot after your last cycle dose. However, the AI dose may require some testing to nail down the optimal range.

This is where private blood tests come in handy, as they allow you to fine tune things based on your individual needs. Your adex protocol seems a tad bit high, and I'm assuming that you either don't use adex for TRT, or it's at 0.25mg EOD - which is on the upper end.

If you KNOW you need more adex, I'd probably start at 0.5mg EOD for 500mg/wk of test. If unsure, it's best to start lower and adjust 4-5 weeks in after getting a private test from say privatemdlabs.com via the female hormone panel. There's a ton of information regarding this in the FAQ sticky at the top of this forum, I'd start there to get a better idea.

My .02c

 

[Repo]

Halfwit nailed it for you!

Welcome to the forum - and please stay active... "you're in good company!"

 

[Marshall911]

Thanks for your help!

Just had my last check up and I'm looking to start the cycle ASAP.

I've never taken arimidex. I get what you're saying about it maybe being a bit heavy. I like the idea of doing .5mg EOD and then upping it if I feel like I need it along the way. I guess my only question would be if I did .5mg EOD what would the dosages of arimidex look like once I drop from the 500mg of T back down to my 100mg?

Also if I am taking 500mg of T would it make the most sense to split it into 250mg Monday and 250mg Friday?

 

[halfwit]

Thanks for your help!

Just had my last check up and I'm looking to start the cycle ASAP.

I've never taken arimidex. I get what you're saying about it maybe being a bit heavy. I like the idea of doing .5mg EOD and then upping it if I feel like I need it along the way. I guess my only question would be if I did .5mg EOD what would the dosages of arimidex look like once I drop from the 500mg of T back down to my 100mg?

Also if I am taking 500mg of T would it make the most sense to split it into 250mg Monday and 250mg Friday?

If you don't need adex now, I'd start at 0.25mg EOD then and adjust up if needed. It's far easier (and less painful) to bring estradiol down than to try to bring it back up.

Yes, splitting the dose exactly like that is best, especially if you're not used to higher volumes of oil. Research injection sites too, you don't want to be using the same places every single time. Many docs neglect this, which leads to scar tissue formation. I suggest quads/delts/glutes (if you're using them already) for starters.

 

[Teutonic]

HW s given u the golden green light OP. Ur ai would of course go down with your return to trt. A lil high on e2 s no biggie and easily countered. This and the next couple cycles will allow u to fine tune your needs w re to aas and ai s prog antag s ( if u go 19 s) so eventually you ll know by how you feel...what u need. My face is a sponge when I break out of trt and I know when my water s to much..I either lower dose or start an ai...u will to...patience Daniel-son.

 

[tbonexl]

Monday and thursday injections would put you close to 3.5 days in between...