Test/Dbol Question

[DivineWillPower]

First My Stats:

Im 19 years old

Im 5 foot 8 inches tall

Im 190 Pounds

Im pretty cut could be better tho sorry i dont know my body fat percentage

Iv ben hitting the weights for a little over 2 years with the mind set of body building


Any ways to the point and ill start off by saying im not going to start on any gear for a few more years im just curious iv been reading about it alot for the past year and im thinking about it im becoming very found of this sport but i understand the risk of starting at a young age and every thing witch im cool with because im exploding just fine with diet rest and training i also know a few guys starting there cycles so its good to be learning as well as watching how things work out for them anyway my question is whats a good first cycle? im thinking Dbol with Test enanthate and i know deca gos well in this cycle but should i do all three on my first cycle? and how do you start do you take dbol for a certain amount of time before the test or do you start them on the same day or would it be good to take Dbol for 6 weeks and follow up with 10 weeks of test and what would be a good post cycle therapy or Pct im horrible with abbreviations so please spell them out if you use them altho i feel like i have good understanding of all this i know there is much to learn so it would be cool if i could here some personal experiences as well as factual information mabye links to places where i can read more i just want to have a good solid understanding of the way this works so eventually if i try it i wont be a Dumb Fuck like some of the people iv herd on threads like this one haha thanks ahead of time iv tryed looking around before i posted this but just didnt seem to find good solid info there seems to be alot of variables in each person but maybe with my stats posted someone with real experience/knowledge could help me out

 

[kbiz26]

Age 19...... Did not read the rest.... Wait 5-6 then consider aas your test is already through the roof and this would be a huge waste of money and bad for your endo system

 

[DivineWillPower]

Age 19...... Did not read the rest.... Wait 5-6 then consider aas your test is already through the roof and this would be a huge waste of money and bad for your endo system

if your not going to take the time to read the whole thing please dont post here obiously he would know if he had read this that this is just a quest for knowledge and i under stand that i am to young to take steroids and i am not going to im just trying to learn more so eventually when the time comes ill be ready and yes iv done my reaserch i was just posting my stats so that someone knowledgeable might be able to give me a better answer ...

 

[UserAt204]

No need to get an attitude. You are the one looking for help and he just told you most people are not going to give advice of any kind to someone they feel is to young and could be potentially dangerous to use.

Now there is a sticky here on post cycle therapy (pct) that covers everything you need to know about that so read that a few times. You are correct that you need to wait a few years because your body is not ready for AAS and it could damage your endocrine system. The problem with watching friends use them is most likely you won't see the damage that's being done right away.

Forget about using two or three compounds for a first cycle. It needs to be as simple as possible. There is another sticky on "oral cycles". Read that as well. From there it should be easy to figure out what's best or if you stick around and read about first cycles from other threads.

The biggest thing here is you really do need to wait for a while and continue to build naturally then your body will be prime for use. I doubt anyone will really lay out a cycle for you simply because of your age.

 

[Cobra Strike]

here is a perfect cycle

eat, eat, train, eat, eat, eat, eat, sleep, repeat....run this for about 260 weeks before starting aas...

head to the diet forum bro...they will tweak your diet and you will be amazed at how much weight you can put on by simply eating...you can eat your body into an anabolic state. This will also teach you how to diet while on aas which is the most important part of running a cycle in the first place

good luck bro

 

[UserAt204]

Good advice

 

[harleys]

Learn to use punctuation. Reading that made my brain hurt.

 

[DivineWillPower]

thanks yeah iv been eating like a horse and training 5 days a week. i cant always eat super healthy even tho i try because i cant afford to eat what i want every day but i figured eating anything would be better then not eating at all.. and yeah sorry about calling you a dick head man i didnt mean any thing by it. that just kinda got on my nerves i know your probly used to dumb young guys wanting start to young but iv read up enough to know better. im just eager to learn

 

[UserAt204]

You are in the right place to learn and we are here to help. Just make wise choices and we will get you were you want to be.

 

[DivineWillPower]

so what im getting out of this is that the best way to do a first cycle would be to use test E only. for 10-12 weeks at 500mg a week and to start post cycle therapy (pct) 6 to 7 days after last Inj..?

 

[UserAt204]

The best way is to wait until you are at least 23 to 25. And no you don't start post cycle therapy (pct) one week after last inject.

 

[DivineWillPower]

so 6 years and 10 weeks from now when would be the proper time for me to start pct for such a cycle? what would it look like iv read it dosent always help you recover and theres all kinds of variables between each person but there has to be some kind of guide line for a first timer to follow..?

 

[djm6464]

like hes realling just looking for info for 5yrs from now

cobra's cycle was the best, and will give you more gains than the 10wks of test that is about what is pumping in you right now, al be it, in the toilet if you run this

 

[Cobra Strike]

bro...you have a shit ton of time to research...you shouldnt be inquiring about a first cycle right now...you should be researching the hormones in your body, how they react to steroids, what esters are, what happens when you dont pct correctly, what each compound does, blah blah blah...all that shit a shit ton more bro...you are way to far away from learning about a first cycle. If you research all this stuff you will figure it out

 

[DivineWillPower]

right if i take steroids now the estrogen levels in my body will close my growth plates thus stunting bone growth. pct will attach to my estrogen receptors not alowing estrogen to attach to my receptors will trick my body into creating more test and get my system running again. and i should be at my max natural potential because my tendons and such need to stretch otherwise my chances of injury are doubled if not tripled because of unatural stretching. some steroids can make them brital and others can actually slow down or stop my body from creating the right chemicals (or whatever its called cant think of the name right now) for proper tendon growth witch can also be handled by properly stacking the correct steroids. along with all the posible side affects like gyno and acne hair lose hair growth. on and on i could continue but like i said iv been studying allot iv read for miles and miles not saying i know everything god knows i dont and i will continue to read and learn. if i was lying and just trying to get you guys to set me up a cycle i wouldent have posted my age as 19. i could have easly lied and said i was 30 but im not a dishonest person i just wanted to here from actual people rather then just reading from the book because we all know personal experience can end up allot different then what the book says. 19 or not i am an adult so its not like your telling a young child how to use steroids im sure i can get the information some where ells i was just reading allot on here and thought it would be cool learn from you guys but it seems all im going to get from here is that im to young and to keep training naturally and thats what i plan to do. its working out quite well im not one to brag or any thing but if you saw me youd probly never guess i was 19 im pretty big for my age. thanks to training hard im a pretty solid 190 at 5'8. i used to be an unsolid 150 give or take i plan to be well over 200 before i start my first cycle and id imagen that might take a few years also considering i do allot of cardio activity outside of the gym. never the less i do take this sport seriously and wouldnt want jepordise it buy takeing steroids at a young age. im not just looking for cycle advice im open to any sort of advice or storrys of personal experience

 

[Cobra Strike]

so 6 years and 10 weeks from now when would be the proper time for me to start post cycle therapy (pct) for such a cycle? what would it look like iv read it dosent always help you recover and theres all kinds of variables between each person but there has to be some kind of guide line for a first timer to follow..?

the proper time to start post cycle therapy (pct) all depends on the ester in the compounds you use...test p is 3-4 days till post cycle therapy (pct)....test e and c is 2 weeks to post cycle therapy (pct)....sus is 3 weeks because of the deconate ester...those are the times you wait till you start post cycle therapy (pct) for test.

its always got me recovered as well but keeping gains is a whole other story

 

[DivineWillPower]

thank you cobra strike!. do you mean all thos as in after last Inj..? as far as i know diet/rest is the best way to keep gains is there some other tricks and techniques to keeping gains after a cycle or do you just eat sleep and dream of large gains ?

 

[ECKSRATED]

I actually like this guys attitude if he's being honest about everything and I think he is. I mean it sounds like u know the effects steroids can have if u take them at your age but don't know too much about the actual cycles which is ok because you have plenty of time. Read up and learn about the proper pcts and ancillaries and when it's time to run your first test cycle you will be as smart as cobra!!! Just listen to everyone and wait 5 or 6 years it's for your own good.

 

[DivineWillPower]

right on ECKSRATED thanks i realy am just intrested in learning more and with all this time on my hands i should be a pro when the time comes.. especially if i can get people to start talking to me on this board

 

[Cobra Strike]

thank you cobra strike!. do you mean all thos as in after last Inj..? as far as i know diet/rest is the best way to keep gains is there some other tricks and techniques to keeping gains after a cycle or do you just eat sleep and dream of large gains ?

ya all those are after the last inject...now when you start throwing in other compounds after 2 or 3 cycles then you have to plan for that as well.

keeping gains is the trick...I try to eat as much as I was on cycle only a little leaner because im not burning the fat as well...also sleep...training at high intensity with low reps....hcg is huge...stay off the scale...and of course your post cycle therapy (pct). All these are variables to how much you actually keep. Never listen to anyone that says they have kept 100% because thats impossible...I would laugh at guys that even tried to tell me they kept 70% unless they were already jacked and knew what they were doing...but most average guys to me dont even keep 50%...but thats my opinion from what I see on a daily basis...and always dream of large gains