Test/deca cycle, unsure about optimal dosing

[Snorklebort]

Getting prepared to embark on yet another cycle (3rd cycle). First cycle I did Test E @ 500mg/week for 12 weeks (with a Torem PCT). 2nd cycle I did Test E @ 750mg for 10 weeks with 40mg Dbol first 4 weeks, & Anadrol @ 100mg for weeks 8-12. Did a Nolva/clomid PCT after. Never experienced sides except a little acne.

Was advised to do Test E @ 800mg weeks 1-10, & Deca @ 400mg weeks 1-8 (followed by a Nolva/clomid/triptorelin PCT). Thinking about throwing in Superdrol @ 30mg for the first 3 weeks, & Tbol for weeks 8-12 (not sure about the dose though), but might not after hearing so many Superdrol horror stories.

What do you guys think about the dosage?

Cheers,
--Rob

 

[Norsegod]

Why do you keep upping the test so much? It's a waste. You could still get great gains with 500 and adding new compounds.

As far as running two orals per cycle, that isn't wise. Especially dbol and drol! Killing your liver, brother. You use liver protection? If you want to use two orals, at least do var as one so it isn't so brutal on your liver.

With the dosing of test and deca I would recommend running your test at 600 and deca at 400. Rule of thumb is usually to do 2/3 deca dose of your test dose. I am not a fan of sdrol so that's on you. I think you should start with dbol or the tbol then do var at the end WITH liver support.

What are your goals?

I love npp with var. Best gains I've ever had. I ran test prop at 700, npp at 350, started out with dbol for 4 weeks at 40a day then finished the last 5 weeks with var at 100 a day, for my last blast. I made GREAT progress. It was an 18 week blast.

 

[Snorklebort]

Yeah, I always use a Liver support that has both milk thistle & NAC. I was originally going to run test/deca @ 600/400 because that's the ratio the blend comes in, but people kept saying I should do a 2:1 ratio to protect my cock lol

Goals are still bulking

 

[Megatron28]

Do up you use and AI or HCG on cycle?

If you use deca you will want to also use a dopamine agonist on cycle.

 

[Snorklebort]

I use Aromasin at a light dose if necessary, and haven't used HCG. Is it ok to mix Aromasin and prami or caber if sides show up?

 

[snowpatrol123]

Doubt you'll need triptorelin for PCT - stick with simple nolva/clomid, add HCG if you want to add something.
Keep it simple IMO:
1-14 test 250mg EOD (875/wk)
1-13 deca 125mg EOD (438/wk)
1-16 hcg 150iu EOD (525iu/wk)
17-20 nolva/clomid

GLHF

 

[snowpatrol123]

I use Aromasin at a light dose if necessary, and haven't used HCG. Is it ok to mix Aromasin and prami or caber if sides show up?

Recommend aromasin preventatively rather than reactively...start with 12mg ED

I would strongly recommend using pharmaceutical AI's if you can (and pct chems for that matter) based off my own experience but it's up to you

If you're using prami, start with 0.2mg ED or EOD as you wish, and slowly titrate up to 0.5mg ED

Haven't used caber myself but I believe you can take it twice/wk, not certain on the dosing

 

[Snorklebort]

I'm using long esters though, so I'm going to pin every 3.5 days

 

[snowpatrol123]

I'm using long esters though, so I'm going to pin every 3.5 days

You can do whatever you want, EOD still gives stabler levels though

 

[Norsegod]

If you want to pin less then take the dose recommended abd divide it by two....that simple.

Caber is the same dosing as prami just needs to be taken less often and if one chooses caber then start the same way you would with prami.

Yes,y can safely mix an ai and a dopamine agonist. You should start them both from the beginning. It's better to use a small preventative measure than to have to fight off existing sides. It's just dumb to wait until you're in trouble already.

Milk thistle is a waste of time, money, and energy. NAC is good shit, though.

Oh, caber abd prami also help with libido/ejaculation recovery time so try the 2/3 dose and if you have issues just up the test. No biggie. Why use more than you have to? More is most certainly not always better in this game.

If you want to bulk then why bother with an oral like tbol? Just do dbol to start and if you extend your cycle to sixteen weeks that'll give your liver a nice enough break to run dbol again at the end, but I would still go with var if I were you. It's perfect way to end any cycle.
Good luck to you. Stay safe.