Test deca dbol drol

[Supmario89]

Stats: will be 23 when I run. 5.7 190lbs bodyfat under 10%.
. I have run two previous cycles of test deca dbol. decided to add the drol in.

Test e-1-14 750/week
Deca 1-12 500/week
Adrol 1-6 50-100 day
Dbol 1-6 50-100 day

Arimidex .25 eod during cycle as needed.
Hcg in cycle 250iu week
Liver protectants also

Pct nolva 40/40/20/20

Any suggestions would be great. Anything else I should have on hand? Never had any problems
with gyno or any other sides.

 

[JMB1]

Use the drol or dbol. Not together. Both are
17AA.

 

[MeatHead96]

Use the drol or dbol. Not together. Both are
17AA.

x2 running two orals is a bad idea. Very hard on the liver and not necessary. Pick one or the other. Throw in clomid with the post cycle therapy (pct) as well if you can 50/50/50/50. I would run the adex higher with those doses, at least .5eod but thats me. Everyone is different. Def have caber or prami on hand if prolactin sides occur. I made this mistake on my last cycle and paid the price. I was only running 300mg of deca too.

 

[Supmario89]

Read many articles about using both together at lower doses cause they work in different ways and to minimize sides.Anyone, have any first hand experience? pros and cons of each?

 

[MeatHead96]

Read many articles about using both together at lower doses cause they work in different ways and to minimize sides.Anyone, have any first hand experience? pros and cons of each?

50-100mg is not a low dose. Both can have harsh sides especially drol. At that dose of dbol there will be alot of conversion to estrogen. .25eod of adex may not be enough to counteract this. Blood pressure could go up significantly. The main point is 17aa's are very harsh on the liver and it is never a good idea to run two together especially at those doses. Your already taking a pretty high dose cycle for someone your age with your stats.

 

[Supmario89]

Yea I will prol get some caber. I ran 400 deca last cycle with no problem. if I get my hands on some I will same goes for the clomid. Would only nolva still be ok?

 

[Zeek]

Unfortunately there are some smaller boards where they preach and encourage people to use drol and dbol together at 100mg and above each.

I definitely do not agree with the logic behind it. One of the main guys who started to preach this approach was Gavin Kane for those that know about his fiasco.

To add something positive to this post I would suggest you look into clomid for your post cycle therapy (pct) as nolva only post cycle therapy (pct)'s have never been effective for me.

You can get all of the clomid you want from osta-gain.com or greatwhitepeptides.com

 

[MeatHead96]

Yea I will prol get some caber. I ran 400 deca last cycle with no problem. if I get my hands on some I will same goes for the clomid. Would only nolva still be ok?

Only nolva would be ok but deca does shut you down hard so it would be better to throw in clomid if you can. The Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on cycle will help. Maybe do an Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast at the end too if you have enough.

 

[Supmario89]

Ive got plenty of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) what would be a good spike? And ill get on the clomid. I planned on starting at 50mg each and figured that would, be plenty. If I was to run both should I run equal? also anyone used apex great, before? I used it in my last cycle and it was, great. should I use, arimidex during post cycle therapy (pct) or stop as I enter post cycle therapy (pct).

 

[MeatHead96]

Ive got plenty of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) what would be a good spike? And ill get on the clomid. I planned on starting at 50mg each and figured that would, be plenty. If I was to run both should I run equal? also anyone used apex great, before? I used it in my last cycle and it was, great. should I use, arimidex during post cycle therapy (pct) or stop as I enter post cycle therapy (pct).

The day after last test inject you can run 500-1000iu ed for 10 days. Take four days off and begin post cycle therapy (pct) clomid 50/50/50/50, nolva 40/40/20/20. Adex is great, I prefer it over Aromasin but everyone is different. I would start at .5eod on cycle and taper it down during the blast up until post cycle therapy (pct). Adex can cause estro rebound so it is a good idea to taper it. You could run it during post cycle therapy (pct) but it is less effective with nolva.

 

[Supmario89]

Thanks meathead. Very helpful. I have heard bad things about using too much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) . Ill up the adex to .5eod. Hoping to get the best gains yet with this cycle. I wont be starting for another month or so got to get all my post cycle therapy (pct) all set before I pin. Anyone had any issues with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) stinging like a bee sting? I didn't the first tine but last cycle I used the bac water that came with.

 

[MeatHead96]

Thanks meathead. Very helpful. I have heard bad things about using too much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) . Ill up the adex to .5eod. Hoping to get the best gains yet with this cycle. I wont be starting for another month or so got to get all my post cycle therapy (pct) all set before I pin. Anyone had any issues with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) stinging like a bee sting? I didn't the first tine but last cycle I used the bac water that came with.

I have had this, usually when I inject too fast. Injecting slower helps. I think your making a wise choice to go with a more aggressive post cycle therapy (pct) with this cycle. Deca will shut you down hard and you really want to make sure you recover well, especially at your age.

 

[Supmario89]

Yea I just toughed it out and mixes the rest with diff bac and had less pain. Never had any issues getting shut down. But rather safe then sorry. This will be my last cycle for a while cause I'm almost where I want to be. Then it's going to be all cardio to get into shape for wrestling and mma.

 

[Supmario89]

Also setting aside the bads . Would running dbol and drol increase gains in your opinions?

 

[MeatHead96]

Also setting aside the bads . Would running dbol and drol increase gains in your opinions?

Not enough for it to be worth the risks. Most would be water weight...its just the kickstart. The real gains should come when the test and deca begin to kick in.

 

[Supmario89]

Ok also would I benifit from letro? If so what would the dosing?

 

[MeatHead96]

Ok also would I benifit from letro? If so what would the dosing?

No, letro is too strong of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Adex is what you want. Letro should really only be used as a last resort to shrink a gyno lump in my opinion.

 

[Supmario89]

Ok. Well if you think of anything else,i should know let me know. Ill post a log once I start next month. Thanks again for all the help. Also would like to hear from anyone who ran a similar cycle.

 

[simpllyhuge]

I have used 50 mg of dbol before and couldn't imagine taking 100.

just for curiosity would 50 mg of dbol for 8 weeks be worse than 100 for 4? or is it the same?

 

[OmegaReign]

Better to run the lower dose for longer, than a higher dose for shorter. Easier to keep the gains, then getting this huge quick burst of muscle, but losing it.