Test E cycle and pct

[Erickson]

I'm going to start my first cycle in a few weeks and I'm just looking for some input. I plan on running 600mg a week (2 pins of 300mg) for 12 weeks but I read that 15 weeks may be a better way to go.
My pct will be 300mg of Clomid 1st day, 100 mg the next 10 days and 50mg a day the remaining 10 days (21 days total). I will start my pct 3 weeks after my last pin. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Turtleneck1971]

I personally like the longer cycles and always run 16 weeks nowadays. With a good pct which you have you will hold onto your gains very well. Just remember to eat and if you have to stuff it down your throat... do it..

 

[DADAWG]

start the pct TWO weeks after the last test eth injection.

 

[DADAWG]

welcome to OLOGY

 

[johnb5151]

I'm going to start my first cycle in a few weeks and I'm just looking for some input. I plan on running 600mg a week (2 pins of 300mg) for 12 weeks but I read that 15 weeks may be a better way to go.
My pct will be 300mg of Clomid 1st day, 100 mg the next 10 days and 50mg a day the remaining 10 days (21 days total). I will start my pct 3 weeks after my last pin. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

12 weeks @ 500mg is a good first time cycle in my opinion. (EDIT - just saw Motor's post 400-500mg is a good range and should be more than enough given proper nutrition and training)

I recommend using (or having on hand) arimidex. I'd also pick up some nolvadex in case you notice adverse effects from the clomid. Since it's your fist cycle I'd consider it wise to keep both on hand to avoid any unnecessary complications. I use both Nolva and Clomid post cycle however it's not a necessity. Also start PCT 2 weeks after last injection.

 

[MotorIHead]

I'm going to start my first cycle in a few weeks and I'm just looking for some input. I plan on running 600mg a week (2 pins of 300mg) for 12 weeks but I read that 15 weeks may be a better way to go.
My pct will be 300mg of Clomid 1st day, 100 mg the next 10 days and 50mg a day the remaining 10 days (21 days total). I will start my pct 3 weeks after my last pin. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Like Dawg said start PCT 2 weeks after last pin with Test E. As for the length of the cycle 12 weeks is fine for a 1st cycle. What's the gear dosed at BTW ? 600mg a week is a lil on the high side for a 1st cycle. Most people run 400-500mg a week for a 1st cycle. Make sure u have ur diet and training in check as well, these are more important than the cycle itself. Welcome to Ology, and what are ur full stats BTW ?

 

[Erickson]

Thanks for the info everybody! I will read up some more about Nolvadex and Arimidex. From what I have read I think Clomid is the way to go but I guess it can't hurt to have everything on hand just in case. The gear I got is 300mg/1ml that's why I was going to go 600mg a week. It is alittle high from what I have read but that is why I wasn't sure if more than 12 weeks on is needed.

 

[batfink0]

Erikson...

This is just my opinion, but I would start out with some D-Bol on the front of that cycle.

If this is your first cycle, you are going to explode in size. Why not get the best cycle possible for those gains.

Again...this is only my opinion, but I feel the best FIRST cycle a person could do is D-Bol/Test E. You will never have another shot at your first cycle, and i'm hoping most agree.... You'll never notice gains like the ones you experience during your very first cycle.

 

[barrysanders]

Erikson...

This is just my opinion, but I would start out with some D-Bol on the front of that cycle.

If this is your first cycle, you are going to explode in size. Why not get the best cycle possible for those gains.

Again...this is only my opinion, but I feel the best FIRST cycle a person could do is D-Bol/Test E. You will never have another shot at your first cycle, and i'm hoping most agree.... You'll never notice gains like the ones you experience during your very first cycle.

Just my opinion; I disagree. You want to start you first cycle with only one compound. You will have enough going on with pinning procedures, diet, and routine. Make it easier on yourself and save Dbol (or Tbol even better) for your second cycle. By adding two or more you take a chance of not knowing which is causes a problem if something does arise (and it does happen). 600mg of TEST will be just fine. Split those injections into two days. eg-Monday/Thursday.

Erickson- A lot of people say that your first cycle will be the best ever. However, that is not always the case. I have the same results (which are good ones 25+ in gains for every cycle) for each cycle that I personally have done. To be honest, my first cycle was the worst. Rational- I didn't know exactly what to expect (and I hate surprises) and there was that first time tension and anxiety. Each cycle after that actually got better for me. Point being, I don't want you to think that you need to add compounds because this is your first cycle and you'll never get that chance again.

These are just my own opinions- Hope it helps!!!!!

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i get flamed for this alot, especially from DAWG, but looking back on my first cycle i wish i would have jumped it with some dbol. it just makes the cycle feel sooo much longer when you do.

 

[MotorIHead]

Thanks for the info everybody! I will read up some more about Nolvadex and Arimidex. From what I have read I think Clomid is the way to go but I guess it can't hurt to have everything on hand just in case. The gear I got is 300mg/1ml that's why I was going to go 600mg a week. It is alittle high from what I have read but that is why I wasn't sure if more than 12 weeks on is needed.

If u want to do near 400mg just inject .75 or 3/4 of a cc each time instead of 1cc. That's going to be 225mg, ur going to have a little waste with each pin so it's going to be near 400mg a week. For ur 1st cycle 12 weeks is fine.

Erikson...

This is just my opinion, but I would start out with some D-Bol on the front of that cycle.

If this is your first cycle, you are going to explode in size. Why not get the best cycle possible for those gains.

Again...this is only my opinion, but I feel the best FIRST cycle a person could do is D-Bol/Test E. You will never have another shot at your first cycle, and i'm hoping most agree.... You'll never notice gains like the ones you experience during your very first cycle.

Terrible advice ! U should stick with 1 compound for the 1st cycle. If he get's bad sides how is going to know what's giving him the sides ? His next cycle (assuming everything is ok with his 1st cycle) he can add the dbol.

i get flamed for this alot, especially from DAWG, but looking back on my first cycle i wish i would have jumped it with some dbol. it just makes the cycle feel sooo much longer when you do.

If u get flamed from Dawg theirs a ver good reason for it. I'm messin with ya Det. Ur well rep'd in these parks but I agree that u should stick with 1 compound for the 1st cycle, then add 1 more each cycle if u want to. I think it's the safest way to go.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

well think about it this way-if i get sides from dbol they will prolly be in the first 2 weeks-either way they are from the same thing-estrogen.

sides from test will come after 4 weeks-from estrogen

so the sides from these 2 compounds are treated with the same ancillaries.

i beleive you would be able to tell what was doing what. even if you couldnt as i mentioned they would both be treated with an AI.

now this could pose a problem for knowing what to take in the future but remember, once the dbol is dropped sides should go away, if it was the dbol.

with all that being said, this is a recommendation on a person to person basis. some people will be so overwhelmed with the cycle it would be best not to complicate things.

on the other hand there are people like myself, who thoroughly educate themselves on all compounds they will be using. this includes knowing what sides may come, what the signs of those sides are and how to correct them.

i firmly believe in test being your first cycle, that was mine. Dbol is the only exception to the rule in my book.

 

[MotorIHead]

well think about it this way-if i get sides from dbol they will prolly be in the first 2 weeks-either way they are from the same thing-estrogen.

sides from test will come after 4 weeks-from estrogen

so the sides from these 2 compounds are treated with the same ancillaries.

i beleive you would be able to tell what was doing what. even if you couldnt as i mentioned they would both be treated with an AI.

now this could pose a problem for knowing what to take in the future but remember, once the dbol is dropped sides should go away, if it was the dbol.

with all that being said, this is a recommendation on a person to person basis. some people will be so overwhelmed with the cycle it would be best not to complicate things.

on the other hand there are people like myself, who thoroughly educate themselves on all compounds they will be using. this includes knowing what sides may come, what the signs of those sides are and how to correct them.

i firmly believe in test being your first cycle, that was mine. Dbol is the only exception to the rule in my book.

Right on I can agree with that, in ur case. But like u said, if ur not knowledgeable then just stick with the 1 compound. Also the sides thing, this is assuming ur not using Prop correct ?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

right-if someone was using prop then i they wouldnt need dbol to jumpstart anyway

 

[MotorIHead]

right-if someone was using prop then i they wouldnt need dbol to jumpstart anyway

Right on, just had to clear that up.

 

[DADAWG]

Erikson...

This is just my opinion, but I would start out with some D-Bol on the front of that cycle.

If this is your first cycle, you are going to explode in size. Why not get the best cycle possible for those gains.

Again...this is only my opinion, but I feel the best FIRST cycle a person could do is D-Bol/Test E. You will never have another shot at your first cycle, and i'm hoping most agree.... You'll never notice gains like the ones you experience during your very first cycle.

i TOTALLY disagree.he has no idea how his body will react to a cycle and 600 mg is more than enough to grow.