Test E vs. Test P gains (plus d bol)

[2GAINS]

what is the difference in gains of running test p 150 mg eod vs 500 mg a week of a 12 week test e cycle. Both being kick stared with d bol. I know you dont need to kick start test p with anything because it is a kick starter but I would like to add d bol in the hopes of more possible muscle gains. And around how much will these make you gain roughly (test+dbol)

 

[Mad- scientist]

It is really user dependent its hard to say how much some one will gain. It depends on diet and a lot of other factors like estrogen control and sodium intake to. I would say some where in the range of 10 to 15 pounds. But a good deal of that is going to be water retention not muscle.

 

[sadpanda]

first cycle went up 20-25 lbs
kept 10 lbs

ull get more gains with the test p (if you run it for 12 weeks) only because it kicks in faster. but for that reason people run it shorter.

just do dbol or tbol test e

its the perfect first cycle

 

[fliedlice]

for first time user, personally, i would recommend sticking to a longer ester like test E or cyp. Only cuz you'd be pinning less frequently. You're gonna be shit at pinning at first anyway, so why stress yourself out with pinning every other day and pinning multiple sites. Just keep it simple and enjoy the ride. After test prop, i was happy when the cycle was over just cuz i was sick of stabbing myself. PIP is also more with prop. Do yourself a favor and just ease into it with E or cyp.

my .02 cents, take it for what its worth.

 

[Mad- scientist]

I didn't know this was the Op's first cycle. I would just stick to Test E for a first cycle. That way if you have any problems you know what compound is causing the problems. Also if you are under 24 I would recommend waiting to cycle. It is more risky because your body isn't fully developed yet. What are your stats?

 

[aryan400]

try test e
test p kicks in 3-4 days while test e takes almost 10 days
test p has a 4.5 half life test e had almost 11 days of half life meaning it stays in your system longer
since its your first cycle test e is a better idea since you can inject once a week and it wont be as much of a bitch for u while test p u have to pin EOD
just stick with plain test , most of the gains from dbol youre going to lose afterwards. its all water. plus ull save ur liver a lot of unneeded work

 

[mrricco2012]

Is this your first cycle? There is both pros and cons, but I wont get into the gym status since its pretty much already discussed and known.
If this is your first cycle then Test E, the only reason I say that is because only 2 pins a week. Sometimes PIP can suck bad, and a first time user not knowing PIP pain can be consumed with bad experience. Though a benefit with Test P is if your not good with Test it will be out of your system quicker.

My first cycle I did both first Test E, then last 3 weeks Test P. So I know from my first cycle the comparisons of PIP from each point of view.

 

[soldier74]

More test gets into ur system with prop

 

[soldier74]

Because there is more test in ttest prop per mg than in test e. I don't no the exact numbers, u'd have to ask one of the nerds on here to clarify that one..lol!

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Dude, lol you've just started a fucking thread saying you want to take a Xanax because you have a phobia of needles? Test Prop is the last thing that should be on your mind when it requires EOD injections at the least... Run the Test E or C.

Yes Test P has more hormone mg for mg compared to long estered Test E or C.