Test & Muscle Quality- Stonecold & Vets!! What To Use??

[Alpha Male1]

Guys, what can I use with Test to enhance muscle quality? I'm not much for the big weight gains or water retention that are commonly associated with it, but I know Test has to be the base of any good cycle. I know most of you recommend Test by itself starting out, but I'm going to add something either way and would like to get some experienced input. I want to stay dry & hard throughout with NO water retention. Can't use Tren because it's my First Cycle. I wish I could afford Primo & Anavar for 10 weeks, but finances rule... Would you use Winstrol, Anavar, or go another route???

 

[DADAWG]

Guys, what can I use with Test to enhance muscle quality? I'm not much for the big weight gains or water retention that are commonly associated with it, but I know Test has to be the base of any good cycle. I know most of you recommend Test by itself starting out, but I'm going to add something either way and would like to get some experienced input. I want to stay dry & hard throughout with NO water retention. Can't use Tren because it's my First Cycle. I wish I could afford Primo & Anavar for 10 weeks, but finances rule... Would you use Winstrol, Anavar, or go another route???

its perfectly possible to say dry and hard on test only even at fairly high doses . femara or arimidex can be used with test to keep bloat away .

 

[BRO FO SHO]

Is arimidex better though for keeping water rention in check slightly, then femara, or are they the same in that manner. Since I have used adex for this purpose and worked great, but never femara.

 

[DADAWG]

Is arimidex better though for keeping water rention in check slightly, then femara, or are they the same in that manner. Since I have used adex for this purpose and worked great, but never femara.

i believe but im not sure that femara is considered stronger but for the majority of us adex is plenty strong enough to keep bloat to a bare minimum .

 

[BRO FO SHO]

Good point bro...

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I understand where you're coming from, but like DADAWG stated, just use a small amount if an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (Arimidex, Femara, or Aromasin), to stop the conversion of T to E, thereby eliminating any water retention.

I highly recommend doing a Test only cycle for your first for many reasons.

 

[Alpha Male1]

So, Test Enanthate@400-500mgs/wk? Or Test prop@100mgs EOD? Either one with, Arimidex@.25mgs ED, right?

 

[DADAWG]

So, Test Enanthate@400-500mgs/wk? Or Test prop@100mgs EOD? Either one with, Arimidex@.25mgs ED, right?

i like eth or cyp for 1st cycles .ed or eod injections is to much for a first timer imo .
your doses for test and adex look fine but you can always adjust the adex dose up or down once you start and see how you are doing .

 

[pullinbig]

you may not need an IA, have it ready if you do but everyone dont need it.