Test-only cycle for no libido problems

I've had terrible libido/ED problems in the past with Tren. Off-the-charts embarrassing.

A heavy Tren cycle is my favorite for gains, but no amount of Dostinex seems to prevent ED for me, even if I'm taking some test. I was not using any estrogen control because I heard that even a little too much 'control' can cause ED. I was not taking enough test to cause gyno. I can tell when my nips are getting sore, and I was not quite there with the test I was running.

At this particular time in my life, over the next few months, I need to be able to perform in bed.

After 8 months off tren, I still have ED pretty bad. A couple times over the last couple months I have experimented with a little short-ester test by itself. Holy crap it works WONDERS! Hard hard hard. When the test wears off, I'm back to ED.

So now I want to do a mild test-only cycle specifically for this purpose. Now that I'm typing this I realize that I'm not even talking about a cycle, I'm really talking about HRT.

In any case, I need to take some test over the next few months and am looking for advice on keeping my estrogen at a level where there's enough to get hard, but not so much as to not get hard.

Everyone's answer here on this site usually starts with "get blood work". I am not getting blood work done. I live in the Progressive capital of the world, Canada, where the state-run medical system dictates what you can and cannot have done. My doctor has told me that I am "not" getting blood work done for this purpose. (Oh well, at least all the poor people get their medical care for free here! Socialism Fking rocks!)

I'd be happy to see a sample "cycle" that you recommend or just general advice about Aromasin vs. Arimidex or whatever you can think of that I should know.

Sorry if this is a stupid question. If you could see the girl involved and what she likes me to do to her you would understand my concern about being ready, willing and able. And this all has to happen pretty damn quickly. I don't have time to wait for 2 weeks to see my doctor so he can tell me to get lost.
 
if you want to see a sample cycle feel free to read the beginners cycle thread sticky in my signature which is highly valued for its first cycle suggestions.
 
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So here's a data point for you, may be of use or maybe not.

I recently did a cruise on 100 Test E/wk with intentionally no AI. Total test came back at 673 ng/dL and estrogen at 40 pg/mL.

The testosterone level was good enough for good gym performance, pretty good recovery, and decent sex life. I would say libido was a tad off, so next time I'll bump up the dosage a bit.

For estrogen 40 is a bit too high. Didn't have any symptoms to speak of, but I'd like to have it down in the 20 to 30 range. For that dosage test it would require a really small dose of AI, like 2 mg/day aromasin. It's hard to divy up doses that small, but next cruise I'll probably try so I'll get another data point.

As always your mileage may vary.
 
So here's a data point for you, may be of use or maybe not.

I recently did a cruise on 100 Test E/wk with intentionally no AI. Total test came back at 673 ng/dL and estrogen at 40 pg/mL.

The testosterone level was good enough for good gym performance, pretty good recovery, and decent sex life. I would say libido was a tad off, so next time I'll bump up the dosage a bit.

For estrogen 40 is a bit too high. Didn't have any symptoms to speak of, but I'd like to have it down in the 20 to 30 range. For that dosage test it would require a really small dose of AI, like 2 mg/day aromasin. It's hard to divy up doses that small, but next cruise I'll probably try so I'll get another data point.

As always your mileage may vary.

Awesome, thank you, I was just looking for a starting point.

Along with a little Cialis I should be g2g.

I'd like like to hear from anyone else who has an opinion.
 
Idk it seems as if your past gear use has been very reckless. Being adamant on not getting bloodwork done even when you currently have issues that bloodwork will determine what's wrong. You may have a bunch of shit wrong with you bud. Getting a hard on is nice but what about the long term?
 
I have to agree with tbonexl, what about long term ? What if this chick is the one ?
Can't you drive over to US and get the blood work done privately there ? After all, its about your own health and well being.
Worst case scenario going the bro-science route you'll fix yourself short term but cause permanent damage long term. At least consider it bro :)
 
Totally agee with driving over to the states to get labs done as santa suggested. would be totally worht your while and asure you a proper monitoring of your bloods to dial into your ai.
 
I personally get random boners like I was 12 again (I'm 33) on 300iu HCG eod. Might help out as well.

Thank you everyone for the great information and suggestions. I expected a lot more of "don't be such a fking tool".

During previous bouts of post-Tren-cycle ED, I had great success with HCG also when I was taking nothing else at all. I think when you're man-parts are being prompted to produce the chemicals they're designed to, they do a great job.

But I heard you shouldn't stay on HCG for an extended period of time so I didn't think it was a solution that would work as well as my make-shift HRT that I need for the next month or two.

jp4355: The thing about blood work here in Canada.... if I mention roids at all to my Dr, it goes into my file. From then on, any time I have a health issue that any form of health insurance may have to pay out a claim on, they can point to my illegal steroid use as a reason to deny the claim. I have lots of life insurance and critical illness insurance. And I fking hate insurance companies because I have seen them fight like hell to get out of paying claims for stupid reasons (not necessarily health insurance, but in regards to property damage and auto accidents).

Driving down to the USA is a completely reasonable idea though. God bless America, the last bastion of hope for free market capitalism.

I will look into it and plan to do that this summer.

santa666: this girl is not the one, but you are right that I should think long term.

She sure is fun though. She literally can't get off unless you make her repeat over and over that she's just a little piece of ass.
 
Lmao can't get blood work. Threw your doc lmao never had a issue and I live in Canada too
U just need to know how to do it
Simple way is to walk into a walk in clinic stat your symptoms like Ed and such fuk even admit your on gear were in Canada and they don't give 2 fuk and they will issue u bloodwork
Just got mine done
Walked into a walk in clinic and stated I wanted my testosterone checked along side a gh serum test as well
No issues what so ever bro
And Free too haha
 
Thank you everyone for the great information and suggestions. I expected a lot more of "don't be such a fking tool".

During previous bouts of post-Tren-cycle ED, I had great success with HCG also when I was taking nothing else at all. I think when you're man-parts are being prompted to produce the chemicals they're designed to, they do a great job.

But I heard you shouldn't stay on HCG for an extended period of time so I didn't think it was a solution that would work as well as my make-shift HRT that I need for the next month or two.

jp4355: The thing about blood work here in Canada.... if I mention roids at all to my Dr, it goes into my file. From then on, any time I have a health issue that any form of health insurance may have to pay out a claim on, they can point to my illegal steroid use as a reason to deny the claim. I have lots of life insurance and critical illness insurance. And I fking hate insurance companies because I have seen them fight like hell to get out of paying claims for stupid reasons (not necessarily health insurance, but in regards to property damage and auto accidents).

Driving down to the USA is a completely reasonable idea though. God bless America, the last bastion of hope for free market capitalism.

I will look into it and plan to do that this summer.

santa666: this girl is not the one, but you are right that I should think long term.

She sure is fun though. She literally can't get off unless you make her repeat over and over that she's just a little piece of ass.

Health insurance in Canada?
We don't live in the US man
Our coverage is paid for and never once did I ever get denied for blood work
Yes the docs can see whats on file forsure but why u have insurance coverage for healthcare and u live in Canada is beyond me
 
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Thank you everyone for the great information and suggestions. I expected a lot more of "don't be such a fking tool".
santa666: this girl is not the one, but you are right that I should think long term.
She sure is fun though. She literally can't get off unless you make her repeat over and over that she's just a little piece of ass.

There's one thing around here that everyone takes serious and put aside the reasons as you why you arrived there and thats ED issues. No man deserves that punishment... :p
Love is a weird thing, its more about how a person makes you feel then anything else and suddenly you wound up with a lot of "the heart wants what the heart wants" haha. But yeh, long term thinking is good.
I do blood work like crazy but some of my friends give me shit about steroids but cant even comprehend the idea of leaving blood work to check on in on your health, they're like "I dont want know if something is wrong"...well...ok then... :p
 
Health insurance in Canada?
We don't live in the US man
Our coverage is paid for and never once did I ever get denied for blood work
Yes the docs can see whats on file forsure but why u have insurance coverage for healthcare and u live in Canada is beyond me

Critical illness insurance mostly. But possibly life insurance too if I die from something that they could conceivably tie to steroid use. "He died of kidney failure. Oh look, the file says he was doing Tren. Denied."
 
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