test P & tren A & NPP & Masteron P - critique & advise needed

[Sizewize]

19/04/2011 day 1 of my test Ace- tren Ace - Masteron prop combo for 8 weeks at 100mg eod to cut down to hopefully 10% bf and try maintain as much size/weight as possible!

So planning my next is like this idea:

Week 1-8 Test prop 150mg Eod
Week 1-8 NPP 100-125mg Eod
Then changeover at week 8 to my mixed vial combo of test ace - Tren ace - masteron prop at 100mg each compound eod for 8 weeks to lean up since I was thinking the the first 8 weeks would bulk me up some..

My question is -
Do you think it would be better to split this cycle into 2 different short 8 weeks cycles ?

I was however wanting to run:
Week 1-12 Test E at 750mg week
Week 1-10 Tren E at 400mg week
last 7 weeks Anavar or Tbol
But I was thinking the 2 short cycles above might give better gains!!

My GOAL is to add lean body mass with minimul bodyfat

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I dont like switching to other compounds, too hard to figure out lag/downtime. The NPP wearing off, tren kicking in. I would just do tren for the whole 16 weeks if it was me. some people like them together but that may be too advanced for you. Dont switch though pick one and go with it. Obviously the tren would be best suited for dropping BF%

 

[Sizewize]

Ok thanks DET-OAK is it ok to run tren in every cycle because the only reason I was going to use NPP was to have a break from tren but if its possible & ok I would run tren in every cycle it gives me "GoD LiKe" powers!
So can I run tren in every cycle like 3-4 cycles in a row ?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

if you have ran tren before you should try low dose nandrolone with it. this will help with collagen synthesis. some people are afraid of the combo cause its 2 19-nors others say its the best cycle they have ever done.

 

[Sizewize]

What dosage of NPP would u recommend 50mg eod ?
What kind of cycle would u recommend in yr opinions with my juice/gear mentioned?

 

[jackedandtanned]

What dosage of NPP would u recommend 50mg eod ?
What kind of cycle would u recommend in yr opinions with my juice/gear mentioned?

i ran nnp @ 100 eod and that was with 75mg tren eod...loved it..with 800mg of test e

 

[Himik]

Isn't 16 weeks too long for a tren cycle?

 

[Sizewize]

Isn't 16 weeks too long for a tren cycle?

I think also but I could just knock it down to 12 weeks mix the test prop/ tren ace/ NPP & masteron all together but just mix the NPP for the first 8 weeks low dose ?
This however would be allot of gear!!

i ran nnp @ 100 eod and that was with 75mg tren eod...loved it..with 800mg of test e

How long was your cycle??

 

[thetruepitbull]

Yes, personally I'd run it all together, if you have the experience that is.

16 weeks of tren is long, 24 is about the max I have done. Keep it shorter, then you can jump back on it sooner rather than later.

 

[Sizewize]

So is this a better option for lean mass:
Week 1-12 Test Ace - Tren Ace - Masteron Prop. at 100mg eod
Week 1-8 NPP 75mg eod

My post cycle therapy (pct) is 100% top class so no need to explain

 

[thetruepitbull]

Just keep an eye on libido and gyno.

Would that be 350mg/week of Test, Tren, Mast?
And 262 of NPP...

 

[Sizewize]

Just keep an eye on libido and gyno.

Would that be 350mg/week of Test, Tren, Mast?
And 262 of NPP...

Thats exactly what Im worried about thats why I thought it would be better breaking the cycle in 2 short 8 weekers like mentioned at the begining? Save my sex drive & split the cycles what do u think?

 

[jackedandtanned]

I think also but I could just knock it down to 12 weeks mix the test prop/ tren ace/ NPP & masteron all together but just mix the NPP for the first 8 weeks low dose ?
This however would be allot of gear!!



How long was your cycle??

that one i think i ran for 12 weeks...then i switched compounds...when im not blasting im cruising on test at 250-300ew

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

So is this a better option for lean mass:
Week 1-12 Test Ace - Tren Ace - Masteron Prop. at 100mg eod
Week 1-8 NPP 75mg eod

My post cycle therapy (pct) is 100% top class so no need to explain

I like this much better.

Keep in mind its not "lean mass" its gains with water or without. this cycle shouldnt hold too much water, but diet plays a big role.

 

[Sizewize]

just wanted to correct something important my test Acetate is actually 90mg & Masteron prop is 105mg and Tren Acetate is 105mg so the test ace is kind of low..

if I do experience some sex drive issues do u think it would be ok to add some test prop mixed in the same syringe inject ?? (take into account my test/tren/mast is a mixed combo already in a 10ml vial)

 

[jackedandtanned]

just wanted to correct something important my test Acetate is actually 90mg & Masteron prop is 105mg and Tren Acetate is 105mg so the test ace is kind of low..

if I do experience some sex drive issues do u think it would be ok to add some test prop mixed in the same syringe inject ?? (take into account my test/tren/mast is a mixed combo already in a 10ml vial)

yes...you can mix as many oils together as the syringe can hold.

 

[Sizewize]

yes...you can mix as many oils together as the syringe can hold.

Thats good then, i was just wondering if it was ok to mix test ace & test prop in the same syringe

 

[jackedandtanned]

Thats good then, i was just wondering if it was ok to mix test ace & test prop in the same syringe

when i mix which is often i kinda turn the syringe up and down the mix the oils together..don't know if its necessary but seems logical.

 

[Sizewize]

when i mix which is often i kinda turn the syringe up and down the mix the oils together..don't know if its necessary but seems logical.

yea I do the same just to mix it properly & just to keep my mind at ease but It all goes in anyway.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

just wanted to correct something important my test Acetate is actually 90mg & Masteron prop is 105mg and Tren Acetate is 105mg so the test ace is kind of low..

if I do experience some sex drive issues do u think it would be ok to add some test prop mixed in the same syringe inject ?? (take into account my test/tren/mast is a mixed combo already in a 10ml vial)

the only libido issue you will have with those compounds is that you will get sick of having to jerk it 3x a day. My woman runs from me when im on that combo...............