Test Prop Cycle [Noob]

Mezer

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Hey guys, no im actually not a noob... ive readed alot and did my research. I just wanna make sure i did understand everything right... so pls dont roid rage me.

1. Cycle:

Week 1 - Week 8
Test Prop 100mg eod

7 Days after last Injection

clomid 50mg every day for 4-6 weeks.


When nipples gonna feel weird/ feeling puffy = Nolva 20 mg ed till last injection


HCG not needed if i understanded it correct.



Everythings g2g?

Thanks alot for your time.
 
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6`0
195 lbs @ 12.5 % bf (im on a cut since 2 months now, wanna cut down till 9% and then will start the cycle)

Why Prop? Because i dont know how i react to a hormon therapy and prop is pretty fast out of the body. If all is good i will choose e or c esther for the next cycle.
 
8 weeks is too short to run a cycle and see gains. Pinning eod for your first cycle will get old quick and be aware of pip. I would run test e/c for 10-12 weeks. No use in running nolva during your cycle as it is just a receptor modulator; you need to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during your cycle like adex or aromasin. Also look into post cycle therapy (pct) a little more, there are plenty of threads that outline basic post cycle therapy (pct). Also make sure your diet is in check before you start up.
 
I would run test e or c as a first cycle. But that's up to u. Save the nolva for pct. get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I hope u know what that is.
 
6`0
195 lbs @ 12.5 % bf (im on a cut since 2 months now, wanna cut down till 9% and then will start the cycle)

Why Prop? Because i dont know how i react to a hormon therapy and prop is pretty fast out of the body. If all is good i will choose e or c esther for the next cycle.

whats your age? hope you like pinning EOD then but I understand your reasoning. unless your cutting on cycle its pointless to cut before a bulk. pick one. bulk or cut and follow your goals
 
whats your age? hope you like pinning EOD then but I understand your reasoning. unless your cutting on cycle its pointless to cut before a bulk. pick one. bulk or cut and follow your goals

of course i would rather inj. every 5-7 days than eod. but like i said, prop is faster out of the body and since i never touched any hormones i prefer this... but maybe i will make my thoughts about the esther and change to e... what should happen... im running mild low-doses... oh and im 24.

if i can ask you, with what kind of esther did u choose with your first cycle?

8 weeks is too short to run a cycle and see gains. Pinning eod for your first cycle will get old quick and be aware of pip. I would run test e/c for 10-12 weeks. No use in running nolva during your cycle as it is just a receptor modulator; you need to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during your cycle like adex or aromasin. Also look into post cycle therapy (pct) a little more, there are plenty of threads that outline basic post cycle therapy (pct). Also make sure your diet is in check before you start up.


Okay... so you mean i should run Aromasin (Exemestane) with my first inj till the last inj? And than post cycle therapy (pct) with Clomid?

Im sorry guys if i sound like a noob, im from germany and on the german websites everyone just keep saying run test and take clomid and u should be fine. since im gettin all my information from english websites i have got the feeling that in germany everbody just talk ****.
 
I ran E my first time. Yes run aromasin from the start til the end. And for pct you can add the nolva with clomid for 4 weeks.
 
I did prop 150mg mwf my first real cycle...I would say your fine make sure and take aromasin from at least week 2 these guys already told you the correct PCT...I would suggest since you have to have 3 bottles for the 8 weeks that you go ahead and do the additional week or two to finish the 3rd so you can have additional gains...I understand its shorter cycle because of short ester but it will still be a couple weeks to get good and going..just my opinion anyway
 
8 weeks is too short to run a cycle and see gains. Pinning eod for your first cycle will get old quick and be aware of pip. I would run test e/c for 10-12 weeks. No use in running nolva during your cycle as it is just a receptor modulator; you need to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during your cycle like adex or aromasin. Also look into pct a little more, there are plenty of threads that outline basic pct. Also make sure your diet is in check before you start up.

What's so bad about prop as a first cycle? I'm gonna be doing it as my first as well. I heard three times a week on Monday, Wednesday and Friday is fine for injections

I would run test e or c as a first cycle. But that's up to u. Save the nolva for pct. get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I hope u know what that is.

Why is this? Prop sounds like a good first cycle. I'm going to be doing the same. What is your reasoning for enanthate as a first cycle other than more pins on propionate?

I did prop 150mg mwf my first real cycle...I would say your fine make sure and take aromasin from at least week 2 these guys already told you the correct PCT...I would suggest since you have to have 3 bottles for the 8 weeks that you go ahead and do the additional week or two to finish the 3rd so you can have additional gains...I understand its shorter cycle because of short ester but it will still be a couple weeks to get good and going..just my opinion anyway

Hey man I'm gonna be doing prop for my first cycle. What dose per week did you run propionate at? I'm thinking of going for eight weeks at 375MG weekly. That will use exactly every last bit of testosterone I have, but some are saying that's too low of a dose of prop? I thought prop at that dose was around 500MG enanthate? And also, is pinning three days a week on Monday, Wednesday and Friday okay?
 
Prop may be quick out of your body, but injecting ED/EOD for a rookie may become a hassle. Pinning like this requires the mentality of actually pinning. I doubt a rookie can find it in themselves to pin so much their first time, especially when they have trouble finding the correct sites. But eh, I won't lecture anyone on the ester they choose. However, unless you're running 125mg+ of Prop, you won't see a significant difference over the longer esters other than release times.

I'd personally run 10 weeks if I was doing 100mg Prop, then finishing with Nolva, Clomid, or both at their respective doses for 4-6 weeks as PCT. Nolva, although a good alternative to traditional 3rd generation AIs, isn't as potent as a real Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like Aromasin or Letro.

Do more research about PCT and esters if you can.
 
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Prop may be quick out of your body, but injecting ED/EOD for a rookie may become a hassle. Pinning like this requires the mentality of actually pinning. I doubt a rookie can find it in themselves to pin so much their first time, especially when they have trouble finding the correct sites. But eh, I won't lecture anyone on the ester they choose. However, unless you're running 125mg+ of Prop, you won't see a significant difference over the longer esters other than release times.

I'd personally run 10 weeks if I was doing 100mg Prop, then finishing with Nolva, Clomid, or both at their respective doses for 4-6 weeks as PCT. Nolva, although a good alternative to traditional 3rd generation AIs, isn't as potent as a real Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like Aromasin or Letro.

Do more research about PCT and esters if you can.

Great advice as always man. Could you possible pop back over to my thread lol? Wouldn't mind some more of your advice and don't want to hijack this thread.
 
Okay i think i switch to Test E...

Test E e5d 250mg for 16 Weeks
20 mg Aromasin ed till last injection

2 Weeks after last inj. for 4 Weeks: Clomid 40/40/20/20 and maybe nolva



Also last question. Is it possible to take Test Prop for let say 1 week and than switch at week two, to test e? That would solve my problem pretty easy. Thanks guys so far for all your helpfull answers.
 
Okay i think i switch to Test E...

Test E e5d 250mg for 16 Weeks
20 mg Aromasin ed till last injection

2 Weeks after last inj. for 4 Weeks: Clomid 40/40/20/20 and maybe nolva



Also last question. Is it possible to take Test Prop for let say 1 week and than switch at week two, to test e? That would solve my problem pretty easy. Thanks guys so far for all your helpfull answers.

Don't switch to Prop for a single week. It will have little to no effect. If you wanted to use Prop in conjunction with your E, then you have two options:

A)Frontload the short ester at a higher dose for 3-5 weeks.
B)Use at end of cycle to start PCT earlier. Last 4-5 weeks.
 
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