test prop, test cyp, tren, mast, dbol cycless

[bigdaddyrocks]

Hello, im a new member to the forum, but have been lifting for about 6 years. ive ran 3 successful cycles all different and im getting ready to do my fourth in a couple months. i learn something new with each cycle i do and im just trying to learn more before i get back on. For my next cycle im gonna use Dbol,10mg test prop 100 test cyp 250 tren a 100 and mast 100 stretched across 16 weeks at fairly low dosage. my aas cycle will look something like this

weeks 1-4 dbol 25mg a day
weeks 1-4 test prop 150mg EoD
weeks 1-10 Tren A 250 mg a week
Weeks 5-12 test cyp 400mg a week split into 2 shots
weeks 5-14 mast 225 mg a week
weeks 12-16 test prop 100mg EoD

i know it sounds like a long cycle, but ive done long cycles before and like the results. I only do one cycle a year and try to get the most from it. ive also stocked up on my sarms/serms that im gonna need for during and after my cycle, but dont know proper dosage this is what ive gathered.

liquidex 30ml for during cycle
liquid tomax 50ml for pct
liquid clomid 70ml for pct

i plan to run my pct just a little bit longer if needed to compensate the longer aas cycle.

As far as supplements go, i think i got everything possible. i grabbed UDCA, cycle support, creatine, BCAAs, Glutamine, DAA, DHEA, ZMA, HcGenerate, Cyto gainer, fish oil, a multi vit, protein and glucosamine for my joints. My Stats are 6'0 195lbs 10-15% bodyfat

i know its a complex cycle so i would appreciate any criticism or opinions regarding my cycle,thanks.

 

[tbonexl]

Why wouldn't u run test cyp from the beginning? It's kinda a big waist starting a long ester test so late in your cycle. Tren a ran at 250mgs a week is kinda low. I would pin .50-.75 ml of tren per day and run prop at .50 ml eod. It's just not a well planned cycle u laid out. It needs a lil work.

 

[bigdaddyrocks]

i wanted to use prop to kick start the whole thing and to finish because of the short acting esters. and are you saying i should use about 400-450 mg of tren a week although im trying to low dose. what would you recommend. any suggestions on the AI dosage.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Weeks 5-12 test cyp 400mg a week split into 2 shots

Run the cyp from the start. It is a long ester and it will take a few weeks to build up. Either use prop the whole way through or keep it/drop it and run the cyp from the start. If you really wanted, save the prop to swap it out with the cyp at the end.

 

[tbonexl]

If your dead set on tren, I would run prop at 50 mgs eod and tren at 50-75 mgs every day. Run prop for 12 weeks and tren for 8. I take Aromasin ed 12.5 and I use caber @ .5 e3d. Then I do a regular pct 3 days after my last prop shot. Actually, I would run tren @ 100mgs every day but that's me.

 

[bigdaddyrocks]

thanks for the advice fellas and advice on the serm/sarms i mentioned or should i check the other forums.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Look into toremifene for PCT over nolva/clomid

 

[bigdaddyrocks]

Look into toremifene for PCT over nolva/clomid

torem looks really good but does it stack up against two pcts working together and after coming off such a long cycle?

 

[tbonexl]

Tor is a good pct option. Not popular on this board. Some don't use clomid due to sides/risks.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

torem looks really good but does it stack up against two pcts working together and after coming off such a long cycle?

I have never heard a failed PCT with Torem, only good reports. Pretty much everyone who has used it says the won't ever use nolva/clomid again. If I was to come off TRT I would deffintly give torem a try. No fucking way am I putting that horrible shit clomid into me again, the depression is just too unbearable for me and I get tracers, yeah it works, but torem is better at restoring.

There's no reason for it to be unpopular. People should not hack until they try. Torem is the king of PCT.

 

[bigdaddyrocks]

yea i agree from what im reading Torem looks good on all fronts i think im still gonna stack it with tomax just to be safe for pct and if i need more or less of one or the either ill adjust, what are your thoughts on the liquidex during cycle as an AI

 

[STAUNCHED427]

On cycle as an AI yes, in PCT no rather aromasin or nothing.

 

[bigdaddyrocks]

If your dead set on tren, I would run prop at 50 mgs eod and tren at 50-75 mgs every day. Run prop for 12 weeks and tren for 8. I take Aromasin ed 12.5 and I use caber @ .5 e3d. Then I do a regular pct 3 days after my last prop shot. Actually, I would run tren @ 100mgs every day but that's me.

now what about the weeks where tren and mast are ran together should i lower there dosage or combine them to double the amount of test ill be taking 250 cyp a week vs 250 tren a and 225 mast a.

 

[tbonexl]

U can run the mast with tren. It's a popular choice.

 

[bigdaddyrocks]

U can run the mast with tren. It's a popular choice.

yea but should i run them at that dosage or should i lower them during the weeks there ran together, or should i increase test?

 

[bigdaddyrocks]

bump

 

[tbonexl]

U can run them at the same mg. U can run tren higher then test and run mast higher then tren. U gotta find your sweet spot.

 

[bigdaddyrocks]

also when should i start my AI, at the beginning of the cycle or a couple of weeks in?

 

[snowpatrol123]

Is this primarily going to be a bulk cycle? If so I don't think you have the optimal compounds. If not, I'm not sure why you'd want to add dbol.

 

[tbonexl]

Tren and mast are used for cutting. Dbol, not so much...