Test Prop/Tren Ace 8 week Cycle

[rickmaff]

Stats
23 Years Old, Consistently lifting for 3 years, 5'5" @ 170 pounds.
Bench 275, Squat 355, Deadlift 545

Cycle 1: Test E @ 600mg for 12 weeks
Cycle 2: Test E @ 500mg for 14 Weeks, Deca @ 320mg for 12 weeks
Ran HCG for both, as well as an AI. Nolva Clomid for PCT cycle one, Triptorelin and Clomid for cycle two.

I didn't really like the gains I made off my second cycle, it was hard to tell if my first (golden) cycle was that much better or if I don't respond well to deca.

My plans for my third cycle (which will be about 6 months from now, as I just finished my last cycle) are to run a high tren/low test for 6-8 weeks.

1-8 Tren A @ 50mg ED (350 EW)
1-8 Test P @ 25mg ED (175 EW)
1-8 T3 @ 25mcg ED
1-8 500iu HCG x2 EW
1-8 .5mg Cabergoline x2 EW
1-8 12.5mg Aromasin ED
3 days after last pin 100mcg shot of Triptorelin
9-12 50mg Clomid ED

If anyone has any advice on what I have layed out, or guidance as far as tren usage goes I'm all ears. I'm also "slightly" concerned about my libido while on Tren, or rather right at the end of the cycle. I will be visiting my wife (who is stationed overseas) within a few days after the last pin for our anniversary (a few days together at most) and I'd like to be able to not only look good but also to perform. I'll have access to viagra through my supplier but I was hoping to not need it. I had absolutely zero issues with deca dick.

Thanks for reading!

 

[3J]

the cycle looks solid.. its your age that is the issue..

whats your bodyfat?

 

[rickmaff]

the cycle looks solid.. its your age that is the issue..

whats your bodyfat?

Last measured bodyfat was 12% right after the deca/bulk cycle. I have an awesome metabolism and a very clean diet.

I know that a lot of people frown at my age for cycle purposes, but I know that a lot of my growth was stunted from asthma medication all my childhood (prednisone and albuterol on a daily basis for years), and if it helps any, I will be 24 years old by the time this cycle comes into play. I have the belief that my age can work in my favor as it would enable me to "bounce back" faster since I'm just entering my prime.

 

[3J]

Last measured bodyfat was 12% right after the deca/bulk cycle. I have an awesome metabolism and a very clean diet.

I know that a lot of people frown at my age for cycle purposes, but I know that a lot of my growth was stunted from asthma medication all my childhood (prednisone and albuterol on a daily basis for years), and if it helps any, I will be 24 years old by the time this cycle comes into play. I have the belief that my age can work in my favor as it would enable me to "bounce back" faster since I'm just entering my prime.

so i should give you the fair warning.. 19-nors shut you down hard... there is a reason why they say wait till your 5th or 6th cycle to run tren.. its a beast.. it shuts you down hard.. and when you commit to it, its likely that you will have to commit to hrt in the long run..

i have nothing to say about your stats.. your height and weight, plus your bodyfat tell me your doing something right.. BUT.. know the risks.. you might be pinning for life

some people, including myself, dont mind hrt.. but its alot of money spent and alot of maintenance for the rest of your life..


its your body, you only get one so be smart with it..


like i said, cycle looks solid


good luck to you

 

[Matt0071]

Stats
23 Years Old, Consistently lifting for 3 years, 5'5" @ 170 pounds.
Bench 275, Squat 355, Deadlift 545

Cycle 1: Test E @ 600mg for 12 weeks
Cycle 2: Test E @ 500mg for 14 Weeks, Deca @ 320mg for 12 weeks
Ran HCG for both, as well as an AI. Nolva Clomid for PCT cycle one, Triptorelin and Clomid for cycle two.

I didn't really like the gains I made off my second cycle, it was hard to tell if my first (golden) cycle was that much better or if I don't respond well to deca.

My plans for my third cycle (which will be about 6 months from now, as I just finished my last cycle) are to run a high tren/low test for 6-8 weeks.

1-8 Tren A @ 50mg ED (350 EW)
1-8 Test P @ 25mg ED (175 EW)
1-8 T3 @ 25mcg ED
1-8 500iu HCG x2 EW
1-8 .5mg Cabergoline x2 EW
1-8 12.5mg Aromasin ED
3 days after last pin 100mcg shot of Triptorelin
9-12 50mg Clomid ED

If anyone has any advice on what I have layed out, or guidance as far as tren usage goes I'm all ears. I'm also "slightly" concerned about my libido while on Tren, or rather right at the end of the cycle. I will be visiting my wife (who is stationed overseas) within a few days after the last pin for our anniversary (a few days together at most) and I'd like to be able to not only look good but also to perform. I'll have access to viagra through my supplier but I was hoping to not need it. I had absolutely zero issues with deca dick.

Thanks for reading!

Lmao u are concerned about libido issues on tren lol, I would be more concerned about controlling your dick as your going to be horny as fuck with wondering eyes since your wife is overseas u better get some lube and watch porn to keep things in tack without seeing your wife lol
Tren is like no other when it comes to libido bro, u want to fuck all the time, your eyes are always wondering, and when u dont get any and horny as fuck u get pissed, a lot of people fall into this catagory running tren, think about it bro it 5x more potent then test!

 

[3J]

yea.. the caber should keep you in check..

also reduces the refractory stage between orgasims.. so you would be able to bust 3 nuts in a row.. at least i did when i was on it.. lol

 

[rickmaff]

I understand the risk of the 19nor steroids, especially when I ran deca for as long as I did. Thus the use of HcG while on cycle and the avoidance of nolvadex. It's also why I use cabaser to reduce the prolactin side effects of this type of gear. Triptorelin was also AMAZING at restarting my natural production, as I had bloods taken every 4 weeks while on and off cycle and now that I am about 4 weeks off PCT my natural test is sitting at around 550 (was lower before my first pin, so still waiting to see where I level back off)

I was more curious as to anyone else who had actually run a cycle like this. I've heard a lot of people being terrified of tren, and then other people who have cycled it 3-4 times safely and with great effect. It's also a reason why I am planning this cycle 6 months out so I can get as much research as possible before I pin again.

I appreciate the advice you have given me, no doubt. I don't want to look like one of those asses that comes looking for advice and then tells everyone that they're wrong. Just looking for someone else to give me their first hand opinions as well.

 

[rickmaff]

Lmao u are concerned about libido issues on tren lol, I would be more concerned about controlling your dick as your going to be horny as fuck with wondering eyes since your wife is overseas u better get some lube and watch porn to keep things in tack without seeing your wife lol

I'm prepared to buy stock in KY Jelly and change my homepage to youporn if I have to! LOL

 

[Matt0071]

Haha good choice, man your eyes are gonna be wondering, I have a hard time controlling it exspecially in the gym, right now as well I am blasting tren and never fails feel oike I want sex all day long
Specially if a chick comes up and talks to u, and or ask if u are single, hmmmm, only wish at times, happened to me a few days ago this nice blonde at the gym randomly came up and asked what I was doing for the night lmao

 

[3J]

I understand the risk of the 19nor steroids, especially when I ran deca for as long as I did. Thus the use of HcG while on cycle and the avoidance of nolvadex. It's also why I use cabaser to reduce the prolactin side effects of this type of gear. Triptorelin was also AMAZING at restarting my natural production, as I had bloods taken every 4 weeks while on and off cycle and now that I am about 4 weeks off PCT my natural test is sitting at around 550 (was lower before my first pin, so still waiting to see where I level back off)

I was more curious as to anyone else who had actually run a cycle like this. I've heard a lot of people being terrified of tren, and then other people who have cycled it 3-4 times safely and with great effect. It's also a reason why I am planning this cycle 6 months out so I can get as much research as possible before I pin again.

I appreciate the advice you have given me, no doubt. I don't want to look like one of those asses that comes looking for advice and then tells everyone that they're wrong. Just looking for someone else to give me their first hand opinions as well.

i experienced the insomnia and night sweats for 2 days.. after that it was gone.. i had tren cough and sweated alot easier.. that was it for me.. i was at 50mg ed

 

[Matt0071]

I'm prepared to buy stock in KY Jelly and change my homepage to youporn if I have to! LOL

Lol, trust me your gonna wish your wife was home, porn doesnt compare to the real deal, still works tho haha, till the gf catches u lmao, atleast for me I get questioned, then it gets into a full blown arguement, and usually she wants me to get off tren cause how horny I am all the time, it does get somewhat annoying exspecially like I said u get denied
To all the singke dudes running tren u guys are damn lucky to have no comitement other then if u want to look for some tail, must be nice on tren

 

[rickmaff]

I've got relatively good control over my dick (for the most part) just because the way my wife and I have been forced to live. I'm prior service and she's still active duty so long times apart are unfortunately really common for us. I still love her more than I love sex (and I never thought that would happen with anyone) lol

As far as both of you guys, are either of you on HRT (self prescribed or otherwise) and was it a direct result of tren use or just from cycling in general

I already have night sweats most nights (Italian blood) and I am a clinically diagnosed insomniac with a lifetime supply of ambien, so I'm hoping I can mitigate that from being a side effect of tren usage.

 

[3J]

I've got relatively good control over my dick (for the most part) just because the way my wife and I have been forced to live. I'm prior service and she's still active duty so long times apart are unfortunately really common for us. I still love her more than I love sex (and I never thought that would happen with anyone) lol

As far as both of you guys, are either of you on HRT (self prescribed or otherwise) and was it a direct result of tren use or just from cycling in general

I already have night sweats most nights (Italian blood) and I am a clinically diagnosed insomniac with a lifetime supply of ambien, so I'm hoping I can mitigate that from being a side effect of tren usage.

i am on hrt... i did not take bloodwork prior to my first cycle.. we all make mistakes lol..

but yea.. im sure it didn't help my situation out.. running at 230 before i started my hrt

 

[rickmaff]

i am on hrt... i did not take bloodwork prior to my first cycle.. we all make mistakes lol..

but yea.. im sure it didn't help my situation out.. running at 230 before i started my hrt

Ever hear of triptorelin? Just curious because I used it in my last cycle and recovered amazingly. It's been shown to even help people who have been shut down for years.

I'm hoping to not have to ever go on HrT, as the benefits don't outweigh the sides I imagine lol

 

[3J]

Ever hear of triptorelin? Just curious because I used it in my last cycle and recovered amazingly. It's been shown to even help people who have been shut down for years.

I'm hoping to not have to ever go on HrT, as the benefits don't outweigh the sides I imagine lol

nothing fun about pinning twice a week for the rest of your life.. and giving blood every 56 days to keep your hemo in check

 

[Matt0071]

Due to alcohol and drugs abuse yes, I was diagnosed withh low t after I sobered up and got the symtoms of low t
I dont do it the proper way right now, the docs where I lived before put me on andro gel and made me feel worse, long story short my new doc here doesnt agree with what I am doingg but still get bloods done every 3 months and donate blood every 56 days, I self prescribe myself (cruise dose) 200mg/week, and try to follow proper protocol with bloods and donating and such, its not right or recommended thats forsure, been on for 2 years now blasting and cruising
Here in canada we have dif laws compared to the states, it is legal here for personal use, just not to distribute, u.s.a is totally dif
Its hard to find a true and outspoken doc, like I said he doesnt agree with it but doesnt come down on me either, he says your choice, your body, and leaves it like that, like I said inhave no probs getting bloods done every 3 months with my family doc

 

[Matt0071]

Where I work at my job doesnt offer benifits, so its costly if I went through being prescribed coming out of my own pocket, a lot cheaper this way, and yes I know the risks involved I am not one of those that does it and then a year down the road complains why they have low t from cycling, not doing proper pct, like stated running 19 nors whih shut u down hard, u really gotta make your mind up when u venture off to this darkside of steroid use, its not as easy as just pinning, exspecially when u have no probs right now producing your own natural T

 

[rickmaff]

Where I work at my job doesnt offer benifits, so its costly if I went through being prescribed coming out of my own pocket, a lot cheaper this way, and yes I know the risks involved I am not one of those that does it and then a year down the road complains why they have low t from cycling, not doing proper pct, like stated running 19 nors whih shut u down hard, u really gotta make your mind up when u venture off to this darkside of steroid use, its not as easy as just pinning, exspecially when u have no probs right now producing your own natural T

Makes sense, I've just become addicted to the gains associated with lifting. Before I started lifting I was 130 pounds, and I was able to put on 20 pounds naturally over 2 years, now two cycles later I'm finally stable at 170 and finally feel good enough about myself and image to be confident in life.

It's really an amazingly long list of pro's and con's. I'm just making sure I do as much research as I can before I jump into something that could potentially change my entire life.

I appreciate the insight from both of you guys!

 

[Matt0071]

Yeah its def addicting people wont admit it, they beat around the bush many ways stating other wise, but once u get a touch with aas its hard not to cycle again and again
Atleastt do yourself some good and get bloods done, and donate blood as well, there is a online forum u can order the female panel for bloods to see where your levels are at before and after your cycle, doesnt cost much either as far as I know, people will chime in more that know better about that and its a private lab as well bro

 

[rickmaff]

Yeah its def addicting people wont admit it, they beat around the bush many ways stating other wise, but once u get a touch with aas its hard not to cycle again and again
Atleastt do yourself some good and get bloods done, and donate blood as well, there is a online forum u can order the female panel for bloods to see where your levels are at before and after your cycle, doesnt cost much either as far as I know, people will chime in more that know better about that and its a private lab as well bro

I've got my veteran healthcare for life, which includes the cost of as many blood panels I could ever need as long as my doctor requests them, and he has no issue with me getting a panel done once a month for "routine" reasons. He doesn't know of my steroid use but he has never given me any issues with any of my requests.