Test Tren cycle add more?

[Mach1]

Okay so I'm looking to run a new cycle to get in the best physical shape for summer.
STATS:22, 6'4 215 pounds 15%bf. I have ran 3 other cycles before. Test E only, Test E and Var, and Test E Deca and Dbol (caught the flu mid cycle threw me off didn't gain to much after)

Now I'm looking to start a Test E and Tren E cycle.

15 weeks altogether
weeks 1-15: Test E 500 Mg's a week
weeks 1-10: Tren E 300 Mg's a week

PCT Clomid and HCG 2 weeks after last pin.

Now here's the thing, I don't know if i should run anything else with it to maximize my gains. I.E. Mast, var, dbol, clem + t3, or winny.
Just trying to get some people's ideas here if i should even bother adding anything that would help me reach full potential by summer.
Burn fat while putting on some extra muscle mass (everyone's dream)

My diet is on point, plain and boring as hell. One more chicken breast and I'll grow my own wings.

BTW not AAS related but my chest is getting a lot stronger but it will not get bigger or shape… HELP!

 

[palmers]

hcg is on cycle not pct, add nolva to pct, don't run tren e ur first round use tren a, use an ai, and research prolactin

edit- if your chest is getting stronger but not bigger and your eating to grow maybe ur form is fucked

 

[tbonexl]

Tren e isn't the preferred tren to use your first time out. I would suggest tren ace. You will need an ai and should have prami or caber on hand. Your pct is a lil off. Why is there so many posts about Clomid and hcg for pct? U can use nolva and Clomid for pct.

 

[Chicago712]

i got a few points to critique your cycle

1) Ill start with the most important --- Tren E is not a good idea for your first run with tren AT ALL
2) Wheres your AI and prami/caber? your going to need it with a 19nor such as tren
3) your pct should include nolva... tren is very harsh you are going to do all you can to recover completely
4) your diet doesnt need to be boring as hell - i dont get why people subject themselves to that nonsense
5) if your looking to gain more mass on your chest try upping your calorie intake on your chest days -- id say carbs/protein would be the most important
6) you don't need any other compounds..
7) i'd like to see a picture to see where your at now..
8) id lower the test to about 300-400
9) and switch the Tren E for Tren A and run it at atleast 50mg ed - up to 75ed - but that all relies on #2) and if you know how to control your e2, prolactin etc

i hope that helps a lil bit... good luck

 

[Chicago712]

Tren e isn't the preferred tren to use your first time out. I would suggest tren ace. You will need an ai and should have prami or caber on hand. Your pct is a lil off. Why is there so many posts about Clomid and hcg for pct? U can use nolva and Clomid for pct.

you beat me to it while i was typing ..

great minds think alike ahha

 

[Mach1]

I was told Tren Ace would be better bc it will leave my system faster if any bad sides, I have yet to get any sides from any cycle besides a few spots on bacne (back acne). All gear was legit.

Thank you for the heads up on PCT.

 

[Chicago712]

I was told Tren Ace would be better bc it will leave my system faster if any bad sides, I have yet to get any sides from any cycle besides a few spots on bacne (back acne). All gear was legit.

Thank you for the heads up on PCT.

Tren is a beast of its own kind.. it CAN NOT be compared to any other compound..

you've had 3 members within seconds tell you the same exact thing.. i'd completely suggest to take our advice

 

[tbonexl]

If u were told to use tren ace then why did u get tren e?

 

[Mach1]

this deff helped a lot. Need to get in contact with my guy with the change from tren e to tren a. But srsly why is it such a big deal besides the whole get out of the system earlier thing. I don't want to pin that much honestly, and if i do, can i rotate delta or would i have to go to glues and quads?

 

[bigkit34]

Tren ace is always preferred by me you get more active hormone per 100mg

 

[bigkit34]

You should always be rotating those spots anyway if you always go delts you'll build up scar tissue there much faster making it harder to pin there

 

[Chicago712]

this deff helped a lot. Need to get in contact with my guy with the change from tren e to tren a. But srsly why is it such a big deal besides the whole get out of the system earlier thing. I don't want to pin that much honestly, and if i do, can i rotate delta or would i have to go to glues and quads?

your not ready for tren...

please read up on AIs and caber/prami

edit: Do your self a favor and read up on that shit.. this by no means effects me whatsoever.. i know ill sleep good at night, however trensomnia is a bitch

 

[tbonexl]

If your worried about rotating different injection spots then your just not ready. U gotta be committed. U obviously havent done much reading up on your proposed cycle.