Test/Var - Sides taking over

Redraider

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Hello Gentlemen:

I have been beating down Halfwitts PM box in which he has been very helpful with ALL my crazy questions. Thanks Halfwitt!!

We have covered everything under the stars including me not feeling well last week and what could possibly be causing this but at that point in time it was more of a manageable side effect as opposed to an ISSUE. Moving forward I feel like HELL. My head feels like the blood is pulsating from my neck to my temples, I am lethargic as all hell, and I only want to sleep. Night sweats and interrupted sleeps have been an issue but manageable but feeling like a train hit me is taking the life out of me.

About me: 28 y/o
183 lbs.
10.5 % BF (3 pinch caliper)
5ft 10
NO previous cycle history

My Cycle: modified slightly but so far

Wk. 1 - test e 250 mg. total split 2 x week
Wk. 2 - test e 300 mg total slit 2x week + Anavar (var) at 75 mg
Wk. 3- test e 35O mg total split 2xweek + Anavar (var) at 75 -100 +
Arimdex .05 EOD
Wk. 4 - test e 350mg total split 2x week + Anavar (var) at 100 mg + arimdex at
.5 EOD

I started the cycle May 5th so I am currently 26 days in. I originally had planned for test @ 250 mg week 10 weeks and 8 weeks of Anavar (var) at 75 Mgs.

I became impatient and started messing with dosages and I am paying the cost (I guess).

If I had to guess I would it has something to do with the Anavar (var) shutting me down, test not kicking in, and arimdex killing what little estrogen is in my body. But I'm no expert as this is my first cycle. Also, I did get a mild case of "test flu" at week 2 but nothing that serious.

I will say this much: I love being Vasculsr as all ever and strong as an ox!!
My endurance is SHOT though and I can barely keep up with Cardio.

Any and ALL help is much appreciated. I feel really shitty.

Thank you!!
 
From the short time I've been here, I've really enjoyed halfwit's posts, very helpful and knowledgeable individual. I'm confident he gave you great advice.

Do you plan on getting blood work anytime soon? You're showing some classic signs of low estrogen levels. Your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose may be too high. Have you ever donated blood? It would be a good idea to have your hCT levels checked.

These are simple suggestion, obviously we're playing a guessing game here without blood work, which I recommend asap.

Best of luck to you.
 
Thanks for the kind words Austinite. :)

Three things come to mind here:

1. Have you checked your blood pressure Red? Headaches/lethargy scream high blood pressure to me and as Austinite suggests could be combined with a high hematocrit.

2. 100mg ED of Anavar (var) is a lot my friend. I weigh about twice what you do and can't handle the sides from that much (assuming it's the real deal of course) ana Anavar (var) . I'd drop it for a few days and see if you feel better. Drink PLENTY of water in the mean time, it'll help flush your system.

3. Drop that adex down to .25mg EOD. I don't know how I missed this in our pm's, but .5mg EOD at 350mg/wk of test is probably overkill for you. I still suggest getting a blood test in a week or two, but I don't think you'll suffer too greatly if we're "shot gunning" too many things at once here and accidentally bring your E2 up a hair.

Hope that helps man and hope you start to feel better! :)
 
yup you either have high blood pressure brought on from water retention from Estrogen or thats simply too much Anavar (var), does your nose bleed?
 
Thanks for the kind words Austinite. :)

Three things come to mind here:

1. Have you checked your blood pressure Red? Headaches/lethargy scream high blood pressure to me and as Austinite suggests could be combined with a high hematocrit.

2. 100mg ED of Anavar (var) is a lot my friend. I weigh about twice what you do and can't handle the sides from that much (assuming it's the real deal of course) ana Anavar (var) . I'd drop it for a few days and see if you feel better. Drink PLENTY of water in the mean time, it'll help flush your system.

3. Drop that adex down to .25mg EOD. I don't know how I missed this in our pm's, but .5mg EOD at 350mg/wk of test is probably overkill for you. I still suggest getting a blood test in a week or two, budon't think you'll suffer too greatly if we're "shot gunning" too many things at once here and accidentally bring your E2 up a hair.

Hope that helps man and hope you start to feel better! :)


I wouldn't say you missed the a dex dosage more like I've been dicking around popping/shooting and the next thing I know my weekly numbers are up. One thing I'm pretty positive of is that all my gear is the real deal. EVERYTHING has caused some reaction.

I would most definitely say my BP is up but I haven't checked it. I was thinking about running by the pharmacy and checking it at one of those stations. I'm thinking its def. the Anavar (var) . I couldn't remember if I took 25 Mgs after lunch so to ENSURE that I did I took another 25 Mgs and had an awesome workout but this is when all hell broke lose. No nose bleeds but I do feel like Im up on Mt. Everest and any second it will burst spewing blood everywhere.

I'm about like a 17 y/o in a liquor store. Lol.....at least I know the gear is real ; ) .

So, a dex is going to be .25 EOD and drop the Anavar (var) for awhile or REDUCE?

Thanks again!
 
Most people run Anavar (var) at the end of the cycle, like me ^_^, I've been getting night sweats at 80mg, but I dropped all my bloat, and am running 14lbs of muscle heavier in the last month of my cycle. Question? Are you using N.O. too? Could be a reason why your head is about to explode, people forget to mention them even though they are vasodilators
 
I'm running 500mg. Sustanon (sust) and 75mg Anavar (var) and the only sides I'm getting are MAJOR shin pumps when I do cardio. Sweating hasn't been a problem. I will say my libido is down. I can still sport wood, but frankly, not much interest in doing anything with it. With that said, my strength is through the roof even though I'm cutting. This is my second cycle, first was Test only at 400mg of cyp. The Anavar (var) took it to another level. There is a site that you can get bloodwork without going to your doctor for a script. I read a post on it yesterday. Dude said it was only 50 bucks. Looked like Labcorp, so I would first check your BP. You don't want to stroke out. Then get that bloodwork. 50 bucks is worth not feeling like shit. Good luck man, I feel for ya.
 
Most people run Anavar (var) at the end of the cycle, like me ^_^, I've been getting night sweats at 80mg, but I dropped all my bloat, and am running 14lbs of muscle heavier in the last month of my cycle. Question? Are you using N.O. too? Could be a reason why your head is about to explode, people forget to mention them even though they are vasodilators

I had orginally planned to take the Anavar (var) towards the latter end of my cycle but it took me awhile to acquire all the ancillaries (wanted everything before pinning), so I jumped the gun and took the Anavar (var) after only being on the test for a week.

The Anavar (var) has definitely taken it to another level. Super ripped, lean, strong. Damn near metamorphic.
If I could do it all over again I would say screw the test e and run prop the whole cycle but I wasn't sure pinning EOD would work for me.

I came home this afternoon and took a nap and am already feeling better (only had 50 Mgs Anavar (var) this morning without the usual 25 this afternoon). Could be in my head but its like the magical half life (8 hrs.) is showing itself. I am taking a pre work before the gym but my extreme sides happened before taking this not longer after the higher dosage of the Anavar (var) .

Also, I am having the same thing wear I can get wood and even sport wood BUT overall very little intrest. Gotta have the test!!!!
 
I had orginally planned to take the Anavar (var) towards the latter end of my cycle but it took me awhile to acquire all the ancillaries (wanted everything before pinning), so I jumped the gun and took the Anavar (var) after only being on the test for a week.

The Anavar (var) has definitely taken it to another level. Super ripped, lean, strong. Damn near metamorphic.
If I could do it all over again I would say screw the test e and run prop the whole cycle but I wasn't sure pinning EOD would work for me.

I came home this afternoon and took a nap and am already feeling better (only had 50 Mgs Anavar (var) this morning without the usual 25 this afternoon). Could be in my head but its like the magical half life (8 hrs.) is showing itself. I am taking a pre work before the gym but my extreme sides happened before taking this not longer after the higher dosage of the Anavar (var) .

Also, I am having the same thing wear I can get wood and even sport wood BUT overall very little intrest. Gotta have the test!!!!
Man, now only if all the oral-only people would see this and take note! I'm surprised you can use those cuffs at the pharmacy given your stats, the damn machine just laughs at me when I even look at it. :( Had to buy one of my very own - I figured if I'm always going to be putting stuff in my body, might as well invest in a quality cuff and meter. ;)

I hadn't thought about issues with using a NO booster like often found in PWO drinks. Good call Methodology! Hopefully it was just the Anavar (var) dose being too high and you're gtg. :)
 
halfwit mentioned something about not getting enough water...

You really have to focus on drinking LOTS of water, and I mean a Gallon or two..

I know if I don't get enough in, and I'm running Anavar (var), my head is pounding. You might just be a little dehydrated... Good way to tell is if your lips are chapped too... Dose that high you haveeee to be dried out...
 
From the short time I've been here, I've really enjoyed halfwit's posts, very helpful and knowledgeable individual. I'm confident he gave you great advice

I'm another fan of halfwit..
Never seen him bullshitting when he posts..

Half u should go for presidency .. U got my vote bro..
 
halfwit mentioned something about not getting enough water...

You really have to focus on drinking LOTS of water, and I mean a Gallon or two..

I know if I don't get enough in, and I'm running Anavar (var), my head is pounding. You might just be a little dehydrated... Good way to tell is if your lips are chapped too... Dose that high you haveeee to be dried out...



I've been drinking a TON of water. Easily a gallon. Pissing all day long. Lips are def. chapped.....
 
halfwit mentioned something about not getting enough water...

You really have to focus on drinking LOTS of water, and I mean a Gallon or two..

I know if I don't get enough in, and I'm running Anavar (var) , my head is pounding. You might just be a little dehydrated... Good way to tell is if your lips are chapped too... Dose that high you haveeee to be dried out...

I almost never drink water, not even close to a gallon a day, but never have bad sides, nor do I ever have body pain associated with filtration, I've even got super wasted and did coke on Anavar (var) and never felt any worse than I normally would have, definitely not a smart decision, but my liver is a champ.
 
lmfaoo... you're crazy!!

I've dranken on Var...

But, I always feel dehydrated; Like, I can't get enough water almost! It's dumb! I drink probably 2gallons easy.. gallon at the gym, and another at work... and still thirsty...
 
I almost never drink water, not even close to a gallon a day, but never have bad sides, nor do I ever have body pain associated with filtration, I've even got super wasted and did coke on Anavar (var) and never felt any worse than I normally would have, definitely not a smart decision, but my liver is a champ.
:eek: You pissing clear with that little of water? I do sweat like a pig, so I HAVE to drink a ton of water, but I can't imagine having less than a gallon a day... My kidneys ache thinking about it!
lmfaoo... you're crazy!!

I've dranken on Anavar (var) ...

But, I always feel dehydrated; Like, I can't get enough water almost! It's dumb! I drink probably 2gallons easy.. gallon at the gym, and another at work... and still thirsty...
I wonder if women can get away with it more as you don't have to worry about the T:E ratio as much. (Well, you do - but in the opposite direction.) Haven't had a drink since I started testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). Makes me sad looking at the bottles of booze I have with a layer of dust on them I could cut with a knife. :( Oh well, healthy lifestyle ftw. :D
 
I wonder if women can get away with it more as you don't have to worry about the T:E ratio as much. (Well, you do - but in the opposite direction.) Haven't had a drink since I started testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). Makes me sad looking at the bottles of booze I have with a layer of dust on them I could cut with a knife. :( Oh well, healthy lifestyle ftw. :D

It'd be nice to find a nice book about women and steroids, not just hearsay evidence aka what you boys call, "broscience" . It's really annoying!! I live in a small community so, it's not like all the women are down with it either so. I litteralllyyyy have no one.
Personally, I think we can just because our estro pretty much gets put on hold. Hey! As long as I have Ass and Titties still... I'm happy! As far as menzies go... Could careless... We spoke about this before Wit.
 
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