The basic pct protocol, peoples experiences

[steroidifbb]

Everyone has different views on pct.. one person says to have this and another says not to have that!
I would like to know what the basic pct protocol is which seems to work for for the majority of people! I know not one size fits all and you have to take alot into account.. compounds used, doses etc! But what seems to work best?
After doing abit of digging ive got a basic idea, please correct me if im wrong...

250iu hcg 2x week for duration of the cycle.
But would a blast the last few weeks suffice if this was not done?

2 weeks after last pin... (if long ester was used)
Pct:
50/50/50/50 clomid
20/20/10/10/10/10 nolva

Or

75/50/50/50 clomid
40/20/20/20 nolva

Maybe extra 2 weeks of nolva at 10

Also if arimadex was used while on cycle, are you best to switch to aromasin for the duration of pct?

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...e-post-cycle-therapy-pct-ancilleries-etc.html

This a a great place to start. You are off in the right direction. I recomend the addition of IGF-1Lr3 to any cycle to prevent testicular atrophy it speeds up the effectivity of recovery if you don't need to recover.

 

[tbonexl]

Nolva and clomid are standard pct. No ai or hcg is in pct. Just serms. The standard protocol would be:

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

A quick read thru the ology faq's thread would've answered this...

 

[steroidifbb]

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-recovery-medicine/639549-basic-guide-post-cycle-therapy-pct-ancilleries-etc.html

This a a great place to start. You are off in the right direction. I recomend the addition of IGF-1Lr3 to any cycle to prevent testicular atrophy it speeds up the effectivity of recovery if you don't need to recover.

Going to give it a read! Thanks pirate

 

[steroidifbb]

Nolva and clomid are standard pct. No ai or hcg is in pct. Just serms. The standard protocol would be:

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

A quick read thru the ology faq's thread

So will the nolva be strong enough take take care of the excess estrogen? People say that estrogen can be higher in pct than than the actual cycle! Again I keep hearing mixed views on this.
Thanks tbonexl

 

[3J]

just to add.. you should always choose running hcg throughout cycle over blasting at the end, its much more effective

 

[tbonexl]

Nolva and clomid are standard pct. No ai or hcg is in pct. Just serms. The standard protocol would be:

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

A quick read thru the ology faq's thread

So will the nolva be strong enough take take care of the excess estrogen? People say that estrogen can be higher in pct than than the actual cycle! Again I keep hearing mixed views on this.
Thanks tbonexl

Depending on what ester test your using, there is a waiting period to start pct. Some standard practice of waiting 2 weeks after last pin of test e to start pct has been the norm. If you look up pct calculator, it's more like 18-21 days after last pin. During this time, you should still be running your ai until you start pct. The wait time will lower test and e2 levels so that you can begin a successful pct. It's pointless to start pct with elevated test levels. The point of pct is to recover your natural test production.

 

[Roush]

So will the nolva be strong enough take take care of the excess estrogen? People say that estrogen can be higher in pct than than the actual cycle! Again I keep hearing mixed views on this.

This is why when your done with your cycle, and before you begin to run your pct , you continue to run an AI. this should help lower estrogen going into pct , and nolva will keep that going .
last thing you want is super high estrogen levels going into pct , high estrogen will make recovering natty test levels really hard , as your body will sense the high amount of estrogen and see no need to start upping its own testosterone production.

 

[steroidifbb]

just to add.. you should always choose running hcg throughout cycle over blasting at the end, its much more effective

Thanks for advice 3j

 

[steroidifbb]

Depending on what ester test your using, there is a waiting period to start pct. Some standard practice of waiting 2 weeks after last pin of test e to start pct has been the norm. If you look up pct calculator, it's more like 18-21 days after last pin. During this time, you should still be running your ai until you start pct. The wait time will lower test and e2 levels so that you can begin a successful pct. It's pointless to start pct with elevated test levels. The point of pct is to recover your natural test production.

Taking this on board, thanks tbonexl

 

[appleton111]

when do you start your cycle?