This is real tricky so need some help from you guys! How do I work this?

Scooter_uk

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Stats first -
Age 31
5'8
188 lbs
13% bf
Training approx 6 years + a bit more..

Current plan for first cycle

Omnadren 250, 500mg every week (2 shots of 250mg on Monday + Thursday) 9 weeks

PCT 2 weeks after last jab
Clomid 100, 50, 50, 50
Nolva 50, 40, 40, 20
(If you think this need changing let me know)

Running Liquid Stane as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) every other day start to finish of cycle.


This is my first cycle and I have been wanting to do this for years but had to hit a good natural level first, coming up to 32 so don't think I'll be gaining much more now.

Anyway, I have got hold of a 9 week cycle of Omnadren 250 (18 x 1ml amps) but also have enough dianabol for approx 4 - 6 weeks.
Also have Chlomid & Liquid Tamox for PCT.
In the post on the way to me is also Liquid Stane to run eod as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout cycle.

Here's the tricky bit, I'm pretty sure my Omnadren amps are real as I have been checking a lot over the last few weeks but on the off chance that they are not and just duds what effects am I going to have if I'm running my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (Stane) from the start of my cycle and turns out everything I'm pinning is dud?

The other problem is from research I have found that I should really be running my Omnadren for 12 weeks but I definitely can't get anymore as my source is out so although I planned to run only 1 aas for my first cycle I'm seriously considering taking my Dianabol for the first 6 weeks to get some good gains going on early enough to make my whole cycle worth it.

That brings me to the next problem, lets say I run the Omnadren, Dianabol and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from start of cycle and turns out the Omna's are dud, what possible problems could i encounter from running only this?

I would like to add I have researched a lot but this isn't a very common problem so I would really appreciate some wisdom from any guys out there who can help me...

Cheers in advance!
 
12 weeks and what test is it? test e? why do you think you stash could be fake? start Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from the beginning. you could kickstart with dbol but being its your first cycle you shouldn't. do whatever you feel
 
12 weeks and what test is it? test e? why do you think you stash could be fake? start Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from the beginning. you could kickstart with dbol but being its your first cycle you shouldn't. do whatever you feel

I did say in my post its Omnadren 250 (blend of 4 - 30mg Testosterone propionate, 60mg phenylpropionate, 60mg isocaproate and 100 decanoate)

If majority recommend me to do just 1 for my first cycle then that's what I'll do, I trust the knowledge of you guys here on being that your experienced in this.

My source is good, guess I'm just worried as I read a lot of things about fake Omna's. Here's a pic of mine -


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different company's call there test all kinds of shit. basically you will be in week 6-7 before your feeling the full affect so why would you want to stop at 9? if your using this blend I would suggest running 12-14 weeks really
 
the blend has test prop in it. which means your going to need to shoot it EOD. this also means your going to be saving pins which gets annoying. have you researched Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on cycle benfits?
 
different company's call there test all kinds of shit. basically you will be in week 6-7 before your feeling the full affect so why would you want to stop at 9? if your using this blend I would suggest running 12-14 weeks really

Hey, I appreciate your advice but it if you take time to read my thread you can see that I have no access to anymore Omnadren. Same goes for when your asking what I'm taking.
 
Omnas are the equivalent of sustanon with just a different ester, can you get sust to complete the cycle to 12 weeks?
I wouldn't sweat the thoughts of it being fake, if trust your source. Its something everyone has in the back of there mind when starting a cycle of human grade gear.
As mentioned to take full advantage of Omnas or Sust you should be pinning EOD or E3D but twice a week is not that bad you just lose the full range of all esters and only maximize the long esters in the blend.
I would not suggest running the dbol for your first cycle if you feel so strongly about the Omnas being fake or are worried, at least if they are you won't be all messed up from running the dbol and can jump off with minimal complications.
As far as the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if they would be fake you risk crashing your E2 levels but Aromasin has a short half life so in the event they are fake and you stop the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) you should bounce back pretty quick.
Don't over think it, its not rocket science so don't make it into something more than it is.

My biggest concern is the ingredients you listed for Omnadren as what you listed is the make up of Sustanon not Omnas.
Sustanon - 30mg Testosterone propionate, 60mg phenylpropionate, 60mg isocaproate and 100 decanoate
Omnadren - 30mg Testosterone propionate, 60mg phenylpropionate, 60mg isocaproate and 100 caproate

LOL nevermind I'm sitting here looking at an empty box of Omnas and reading the ingredients, Jelfa changed the make up of it and the esters are now the exact same as sustanon. My bad sorry
 
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ok what im saying is don't run it for 9 weeks...if you cant get more right now than fucking wait until you do. I can make a blend and call it king butt fucks fruity cocktail. the name doesn't matter...whats in it does.
 
ok what im saying is don't run it for 9 weeks...if you cant get more right now than fucking wait until you do. I can make a blend and call it king butt fucks fruity cocktail. the name doesn't matter...whats in it does.

So is that what you use? - king butt fucks fruity cocktail?
Doesn't sound like something I would like but each to their own
 
Omnas are the equivalent of sustanon with just a different ester, can you get sust to complete the cycle to 12 weeks?
I wouldn't sweat the thoughts of it being fake, if trust your source. Its something everyone has in the back of there mind when starting a cycle of human grade gear.
As mentioned to take full advantage of Omnas or Sust you should be pinning EOD or E3D but twice a week is not that bad you just lose the full range of all esters and only maximize the long esters in the blend.
I would not suggest running the dbol for your first cycle if you feel so strongly about the Omnas being fake or are worried, at least if they are you won't be all messed up from running the dbol and can jump off with minimal complications.
As far as the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if they would be fake you risk crashing your E2 levels but Aromasin has a short half life so in the event they are fake and you stop the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) you should bounce back pretty quick.
Don't over think it, its not rocket science so don't make it into something more than it is.

My biggest concern is the ingredients you listed for Omnadren as what you listed is the make up of Sustanon not Omnas.
Sustanon - 30mg Testosterone propionate, 60mg phenylpropionate, 60mg isocaproate and 100 decanoate
Omnadren - 30mg Testosterone propionate, 60mg phenylpropionate, 60mg isocaproate and 100 caproate

LOL nevermind I'm sitting here looking at an empty box of Omnas and reading the ingredients, Jelfa changed the make up of it and the esters are now the exact same as sustanon. My bad sorry

Strange timing! I just saw a friend at gym saying he can eat me a few amps of susta to extend my cycle!
Cheers, that's what I'll do!

Your reply makes sense, I suppose first timers will over think it.. One question I had though is what do you mean by 'crashing' I understand it happens I just don't know what that physically means?

Thanks man, your reply was a good one and actually helped!

I won't be running the Dianabol either..
 
I would just use the Sustanon for 10-12 weeks and forget the Dbol. This way in 2 or 3 weeks you will know if you gear is real or not. Save the dbol for next cycle and do pct just like you planned out.
 
I would just use the Sustanon for 10-12 weeks and forget the Dbol. This way in 2 or 3 weeks you will know if you gear is real or not. Save the dbol for next cycle and do pct just like you planned out.

Makes a lot of sense, my instinct says that I should save the Dianabol for next cycle and that's what I'm hearing from you guys so that's the way forward on that part..
 
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