Hugepecks91
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I am sorry to repost this but the questions have not been answered.. have added some new things as well below..
So I have been reading some of the stickies about aas and tendons becoming weak. For me this is a problem because im not the kind of guy to just go out and provoke an injury if it's easily preventable. I am yet to do my first cycle of AAS but hope to start soon.
My question is, if everyone says to just do a test cycle only to see how the chemical reacts to your body. Why is it worth the chance you could blow a joint on the very first cycle from maxing out if your tendons get brittle? Why not just do what the sticky said and sub in 3/mg per lbs bodyweight of deca to increase over all bone density/tendon health with test at 500mg a week and avoid the whole scenario of getting injured? I mean yes, there is a point to see what a substance can do to your body that has never been introduced before. But if your going to run a cycle regardless of those risks and since test is low toxicity anyways. Why not jump the whole thing and go with a stack?
Deca unlike test does not have the androgenic properties due to the molecular make up allowing the body to maintain a more viable homeostasis state with the increase arom to estrogen.. If you are stacking with testosterone at a dosage of 500/200 test/deca stack would the androgenic sides of test be less severe? I.E. joint pain/weak tendons? Wouldnt this also increase overall total bone denisty/tendon health and not have to worry about brittle tendons or bones? Not too mention with test being at a substantially higher dosage than the deca, as far as i have read, you wouldnt have to worry about the dreaded side effects of "deca dick" leaving you without libido.
Of course deca is going to shut your HPTA harder but isnt that going to rebound anyways wtih a good PCT and planning? I.E. (clomid, nolva, AI) not too mention you will be able to keep more of your gains better while stacking deca with test due to the fact that your body will be able to compensate better with a more moderate level of estrogen to testosterone and not have to bounce back and fourth from one extreme of high test levels and no estrogen, to another extreme of no test and high estrogen. when you cycle off you wil be shut down, but sicne your body wasnt already 500mg test with Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and nolva to stop the production of estrogen you wont have such a jump to get back to the normal hormone levels of the body.. (?)
(theoretical hypothesis) it will all drop at the same time if you take AIs post cycle stacking wtih clomid and nolva correct? I mean of course yu will defiantely have to take into consideration of an AI/nolva during cycle to avoid gyno and such because both compounds can be converted into estrogen, but if your taking deca which will moderate estrogen levels better would the test still convert with a chemical balance? example --> high test? + moderate estrogen? = high levels of both for a homeostasis? leaving you with a total increase in overall test levels anyways which would infact boost your lifts/strength gains the same but without the hormonal issues other than the percentage of both being higher than normal?
anyways im not an expert on this nor do i have any experience because i have not done my first cycle.. but it seems more logical to do it this way and avoid the effects of test like everyone is so afraid of e.g. hair loss, joint pain, esp joint/tendons being brittle which is the origional question of the post. cycling deca at a low dose seems okay, but then again like i said... I dont know shit. and i never claimed i did. This information that i have presented came from the stickies and members claims of the forums.
Feedback would be great.
sorry for the long post, trying to get as much information and research as i can before i make my own decisons.
So I have been reading some of the stickies about aas and tendons becoming weak. For me this is a problem because im not the kind of guy to just go out and provoke an injury if it's easily preventable. I am yet to do my first cycle of AAS but hope to start soon.
My question is, if everyone says to just do a test cycle only to see how the chemical reacts to your body. Why is it worth the chance you could blow a joint on the very first cycle from maxing out if your tendons get brittle? Why not just do what the sticky said and sub in 3/mg per lbs bodyweight of deca to increase over all bone density/tendon health with test at 500mg a week and avoid the whole scenario of getting injured? I mean yes, there is a point to see what a substance can do to your body that has never been introduced before. But if your going to run a cycle regardless of those risks and since test is low toxicity anyways. Why not jump the whole thing and go with a stack?
Deca unlike test does not have the androgenic properties due to the molecular make up allowing the body to maintain a more viable homeostasis state with the increase arom to estrogen.. If you are stacking with testosterone at a dosage of 500/200 test/deca stack would the androgenic sides of test be less severe? I.E. joint pain/weak tendons? Wouldnt this also increase overall total bone denisty/tendon health and not have to worry about brittle tendons or bones? Not too mention with test being at a substantially higher dosage than the deca, as far as i have read, you wouldnt have to worry about the dreaded side effects of "deca dick" leaving you without libido.
Of course deca is going to shut your HPTA harder but isnt that going to rebound anyways wtih a good PCT and planning? I.E. (clomid, nolva, AI) not too mention you will be able to keep more of your gains better while stacking deca with test due to the fact that your body will be able to compensate better with a more moderate level of estrogen to testosterone and not have to bounce back and fourth from one extreme of high test levels and no estrogen, to another extreme of no test and high estrogen. when you cycle off you wil be shut down, but sicne your body wasnt already 500mg test with Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and nolva to stop the production of estrogen you wont have such a jump to get back to the normal hormone levels of the body.. (?)
(theoretical hypothesis) it will all drop at the same time if you take AIs post cycle stacking wtih clomid and nolva correct? I mean of course yu will defiantely have to take into consideration of an AI/nolva during cycle to avoid gyno and such because both compounds can be converted into estrogen, but if your taking deca which will moderate estrogen levels better would the test still convert with a chemical balance? example --> high test? + moderate estrogen? = high levels of both for a homeostasis? leaving you with a total increase in overall test levels anyways which would infact boost your lifts/strength gains the same but without the hormonal issues other than the percentage of both being higher than normal?
anyways im not an expert on this nor do i have any experience because i have not done my first cycle.. but it seems more logical to do it this way and avoid the effects of test like everyone is so afraid of e.g. hair loss, joint pain, esp joint/tendons being brittle which is the origional question of the post. cycling deca at a low dose seems okay, but then again like i said... I dont know shit. and i never claimed i did. This information that i have presented came from the stickies and members claims of the forums.
Feedback would be great.
sorry for the long post, trying to get as much information and research as i can before i make my own decisons.
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, ima agree with everyone else op, this site isn't about screwing you over, information here is all from experience, bro science if u must 