To all those saying you can maintain steroid gains.

Ok lets say I didnt gain a single pound of muscle and it was all water. I ask you this then. Is it possible for your working sets on bench to increase by 50 lbs, 60 lbs on dead lifts, 50 lbs on squat not to mention the other increases, simply by adding some water to your muscle? It seems very highly unlikely to me.

Secondly this is my opinion which I could be wrong in but hear me out. Every drug has an effect on the user which wares off over a certain period of time, morphine, cocaine, weed, advil, tylenol and so on. If you are getting no stimulation from the drug then it makes sense for the drugs effects to ware off. In this case, the muscle gain. Testicular atrophy and so on. When you come off, your balls grow back and it makes sense that the muscle goes away too.

Thirdly, there could be a chance that this all depends on genetics. Some can keep the gains for longer than others and some just cant.

Even though I respect your opinions, the only way I will believe that steroid gains are able to be kept is if I can see it myself and so far I havent.

Yes extra water in the muscle will give you a strength boost. Google this supplement called Creatine,its main effect is increasing water retention which just taking about 5g for a week you can increase your weight by about 5-8lbs and your lifts can go up by an extra 10lbs easily. So yeah probably 90% of the weight you lost was water and not muscle.
 
I went for one cycle of tren and test prop. gained about 20 lbs of dry muscle. I was under my natural limit still. Once getting off I increased my calories by about 500 over when I was on juice, in hopes to maintain gains. I did correct pct as followed by the stickies in this forum using both clomid and nolva and I lost all 20 lbs of muscle plus all the strength I gained In about a week and a half after the stuff left my system. Like I said I put my calories up plus I trained regularly and had proper pct. I went right back to where I started. I have learned my lesson and this time around Im blasting and cruising. To all those who maintain gains, I guess you are just gifted genetically.

Forgot to mention
Used Aromasin and Letro....not at the same time
Used hcg through cycle but not in pct

man what you lost was water. you don't lose 20 pounds of muscle in a week and a half. no way.
 
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