Total testosterone blood levels during cycle

[alexenvalencia]

I've been slightly hypogonadal (day to day testosterone levels on the low end) for the last 5 years due to use of SSRIs.

My reference level pre cycle was 354.5 ng/dl (normal range 160-880).

I worked out in the gym pretty hard with a great diet (6 meals, dont smoke or drink and get to bed early) for 6 months but saw very few gains and the workouts were tough with low aggresion and power in my opinion becuase of the low test levels.

Decided that as I was planning to Testosterone Replacement Therapy anyway, I would do a beginner cycle first with heavy workouts to kickstart then drop back to a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosage after 12 weeks (100mg a week)

Started 200mg Test Cyp E3D about 13 days ago. My source provided Balkan Pharma testosterone and all the vials failed the anti-piracy test (though the clomed he provided passed).

Thus I took a blood test to for Total Testosterone to check whether the gear was legit.

Result was 1499 ng/dl 13 days into a E3d 200mg Test cycle (baseline pre cycle for me was 354.5 ng/dl)

ADDED DETAIL: Last injection on the Tuesday morning, drew blood on the friday morning (ie the longest time since the last injection possible on the E3D schedule) and after drawing blood took my next E3D injection of test.

Clearly the Balkan Pharma test has increased my levels, but to those experienced with blood tests during a cycle, do my test levels look indicative of quality legitimate gear from Balkan?

Does the total test level slowly build up during the cycle to reach a peak some weeks into it (like half way for example)?

 

[UserAt204]

It's only been 13 days and it's 4 x higher than normal. It should get much higher than that but I'm guessing that it will increase with time.

 

[alexenvalencia]

Has anyone taken a bloodtest during a similar cycle of only test <500mg a week?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

when did you do your blood draw in relation to your injection? your t levels should get to at least 2500 7 days after an injection later in the cycle.

 

[alexenvalencia]

Hey Det oak - Last injection on the Tuesday morning, drew blood on the friday morning (ie the longest time since the last injection possible on the E3D schedule) and after drawing blood took my next E3D injection of test.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

so your Blood levels were prolly up around or just over 2,000 day after inject, id say your gear is legit.

If you want to know your peak you should test withn 48 hours, pref after 24 hours.

 

[endurance724]

i found these figures from another board, im not sure how accurate they are but supposedly its from a reliable source.

250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl
500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl
750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's

According to an official clinical application :

25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl
50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl
125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl
300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl
600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370 ng/dl

It looks like around 125-150mg/week is what would be required to maintain natural levels.

 

[cashout]

According to an official clinical application :

25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl
50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl
125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl
300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl
600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370 ng/dl

These numbers were baselined 7 days after the single injection application for the study.

That means these numbers were the LOWEST numbers that the subject would expect to experience during the week.

General rule of thumb, for test injections between 200 mg - 700 mg per week, the high water mark should be about a factor of 10.

So, the high range for a 500 mg per week treatment should be close to 5000 ng/dl.

 

[DADAWG]

These numbers were baselined 7 days after the single injection application for the study.

That means these numbers were the LOWEST numbers that the subject would expect to experience during the week.

General rule of thumb, for test injections between 200 mg - 700 mg per week, the high water mark should be about a factor of 10.

So, the high range for a 500 mg per week treatment should be close to 5000 ng/dl.

with long ester gear the increase in t level will be more prominent later in the cycle.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

These numbers were baselined 7 days after the single injection application for the study.

That means these numbers were the LOWEST numbers that the subject would expect to experience during the week.

General rule of thumb, for test injections between 200 mg - 700 mg per week, the high water mark should be about a factor of 10.

So, the high range for a 500 mg per week treatment should be close to 5000 ng/dl.

exactly

 

[Bullseye Forever]

on my way t get mine fixed,my dose is 600mg and my levels are 2000ng/nl...but extremely high estrogen levels is causing mine,starting aromasin tomorrow

 

[alexenvalencia]

Thanks for the great table Endurance, much appreciated.

So from what I'm reading, you guys feel there is Test in them vials (obviously ) but it could be somewhat underdosed or still needs a couple of weeks to get to the levels discussed?

It may be relevant that I took my blood read on the 3rd day after injection of the E3D schedule, so technically I took it at the trough level.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

needs more time to build blood levels

 

[one2nv]

I just got my bloods done yesterday and I am 10 weeks in to my 600mg test e cycle I will post up the results when they come in.....I think my gear is extremely under-dosed hence the reason I opted for a blood test so my results may not give you what your looking for....see how we go.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

one2v-when was your last injection? how many mg's?

 

[one2nv]

one2v-when was your last injection? how many mg's?

I did my last shot Monday night at about 11.30pm 300mg test e and got my bloods done on weds arvo about 3pm. so 39.5 hours after last shot....keep in mind I strongly believe my gear is major under-dosed so that 300mg shot mite only be half of that if not more.

 

[alexenvalencia]

one2nv - I would be very interested in seeing the results - please post them when you have them.

 

[one2nv]

one2nv - I would be very interested in seeing the results - please post them when you have them.

Ok results are in.....I live in Australia so we measure in nmol/l. At the end of week 10 I got the blood test and it was done with in 48 hours of last injection I was doing 600mg per week split in to 2 shots. my results for total test is 50 nmol/l I converted that in to ng/dl and it works out to be 1440.

As I mentioned "alexenvalencia" my results aren't a good guide for you as I suspected my gear was under-dosed now I guess it certainly proves it.

"250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl" this is what was quoted buy another member who said the info came from a reliable source...so I guess I have been majorly ripped off as my gear is under-dosed by more then half of what it was meant to be.

Any info on this guys would be great....dont mean to over take your thread alexenvalencia. You mite be interested to here what other members have to say anyway.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

yea thats bullshit your gear sux bro. that is your peak, because of injection timing. it should be at least 3,000 for when you tested. what was E2?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Alex your gear could still be good, as your test was only 13 days in.

you shouldnt have to get tested to know if you gear is bunk, if you are thinking that it prolly is bunk. keep in mind this needs to be decided 6-8 weeks into the cycle.

my buddy is doing his first cycle now, he has no doubt its working, he is stronger than he has ever been.