tren a High dose or NPP + tren A low dose? with TEST P ofc

[zuppah]

Hi i was thinking a nice cycle for gaining lean good muscles


i was thinking of running 400,mg test for 11 weeks and either 450mg tren a for 10 weeks or 300mg tren a + 300mg npp for 10 weeks...


which of those would be most powerful?? is the tren and npp to low to work well ? or are they good together. ?? i ran 200 tren e and 300 deca with 500 test once and gaineded Alot! but that was kinda first cycle

 

[spiderpig]

You need to run your test a little lower, When running test and tren they will fight for the same receptor, never run test higher or the same dose. Tren is a powerful compund, 1x being test, tren is 5x stronger.

You say you run test, deca and tren for your first cycle, That's extermly harsh for your first cycle. did you run a post cycle therapy (pct), and what is your Plan for post cycle therapy (pct) this time?

 

[Alinshop]

What are your stats?

 

[zuppah]

I was thinking
test p 400mg week 1-11
tren A 300mg week 1-10
NPP 300mg week 1-10

or test P 400mg EW with tren A 450mg EW whicvh one gives best results

i got nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) 40/20/20/20

stats: 180lbs 8% fat age: 23 height: 187cm been training since i was 16 done 4 cycles

 

[inhuman2008]

180lbs and youve done 4 cycles? where did those other cycles go? i think im going to have to call bullshit on this one.

 

[spiderpig]

I was thinking
test p 400mg week 1-11
tren A 300mg week 1-10
NPP 300mg week 1-10

or test P 400mg EW with tren A 450mg EW whicvh one gives best results

i got nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) 40/20/20/20

stats: 180lbs 8% fat age: 23 height: 187cm been training since i was 16 done 4 cycles

Why you running the test higher? Like I said before you should run your tren higher than the test

 

[zuppah]

why?? u mean that by deca too? cus both is 19nors deca higher then test?? many go test higher then tren.

 

[zuppah]

long time since ive cycled.. and ive had a training break for some months.. where some over 100kg before..

 

[spiderpig]

Lots of people do, but they are in experienced, I'm no pro, but I do no that to get desired results from tren your test should be lower because they fight for the same receptor

 

[MattyIce]

Why you running the test higher? Like I said before you should run your tren higher than the test

no you "should" not. tren high is an opinion and not based on any fact whatsoever. my crew all prefer test high... less sides, better gains, easier recovery from experience of many test and tren cycles both ways.

 

[MattyIce]

Lots of people do, but they are in experienced, I'm no pro, but I do no that to get desired results from tren your test should be lower because they fight for the same receptor

that is bullshit and can not be proves which compound attaches to receptor with greater affininty. it is conjecture and that is all.

 

[MattyIce]

OP... i wouldn't run deca and tren simultaneously if you hadnt cycled in a while. there is nothing wrong with 2 19-nors, contrary to "lactating" rumors and other bs. many, many users run deca and tren synergistic with out issue. I'd run test 500, tren 400 and deca 200 for 14 weeks. for short ester... 10 weeks.