Tren Ace/Test Cyp cycle critique please!
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JWS77
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tren should be dosed higher than the test (eg. tren @ 500mg, test @ 400mg). The reason is they both compete for the same androgen receptor and tren will win, so any additional test above the tren will be free floating and not receptive, just converting to e2. Also hit the tren eod, not 2xwk. I would up the cycle of tren ace to 8wks minimum. You can front load the test for 1wk, before pinning the tren if you would like. Have you considered Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? and what does your post cycle therapy (pct) look like?
KaiserSose
Smoke or get Smoked
200mg of ace a week is hardly worth it , and ya pin eod at least, bump that dose
funky419
Dr. Chim Ritcholds
50 mg eod is plenty for a first time tren cycle. You will have enough for 40 days so fifure around a 6 week cycle of tren. If it were me though I would drop the test down to 400ish. It competes for the same receptors as the tren.
you have a post cycle therapy (pct) planned and thought out?
front loading is taking a lot at first then lowering your dose after a week or so. My school of thoiught (with short esters, when on a limited supply) is to take less the first week until it starts to kick in then up the dosage. Less waste. Not recomended b/c of unstable blood levels though. I mean I wouldnt worry if you just changed it once but not something you want to do day to day or week to week.
you have a post cycle therapy (pct) planned and thought out?
front loading is taking a lot at first then lowering your dose after a week or so. My school of thoiught (with short esters, when on a limited supply) is to take less the first week until it starts to kick in then up the dosage. Less waste. Not recomended b/c of unstable blood levels though. I mean I wouldnt worry if you just changed it once but not something you want to do day to day or week to week.
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KaiserSose
Smoke or get Smoked
you dont have enough tren not even close
funky419
Dr. Chim Ritcholds
this is what I would do if I were you, if I couldnt get anymore gear.
test cyp weeks 1-12 4-500 mg
tren a weeks 3-9 50 mg eod
pct?
Clomid 50 mg ED for 4 weeks straight starting week 14. So thats 2 weeks after last shot of test cyp.
Also I would throw in Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), bc of the tren. 5000 iu's. 500 iu's a day for 10 days straight, starting the day after your last inject of cyp. I guess you won't be able to get any though, b/c you cant get anymore gear?
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test cyp weeks 1-12 4-500 mg
tren a weeks 3-9 50 mg eod
pct?
Clomid 50 mg ED for 4 weeks straight starting week 14. So thats 2 weeks after last shot of test cyp.
Also I would throw in Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), bc of the tren. 5000 iu's. 500 iu's a day for 10 days straight, starting the day after your last inject of cyp. I guess you won't be able to get any though, b/c you cant get anymore gear?
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I hope that helps.
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hothead
Eat,Sleep,Lift
Thanks for the great info,and yes i can still get hcg and clomid,so i have no worries there,its just the actual gear that im limited to. The cycle you wrote out sounds great. My previous cycle i did 900mg of test a week and 500mg of deca as well. I know i can handle a higher dosage of test,would you still recommend that i keep the test dosage of this cycle at 500mg,or can i up the dosage?
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funky419
Dr. Chim Ritcholds
I would run it higher if you had more tren to run at a higher dose. I guess it doesnt matter a whole lot.. I would def get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) though. If your estrogen gets our of control then you are more likely to get prolactin sides from the tren.
Read up on why people run tren and test at the same amount. You might want to just save the tren for another cycle. idk. I dont think it would matter too much either way. Except for having a higher chance of sides. Tren has a higher binding affinity. IDK bro, read up on it. I guess I dont understand it well enough to explain it.
Read up on why people run tren and test at the same amount. You might want to just save the tren for another cycle. idk. I dont think it would matter too much either way. Except for having a higher chance of sides. Tren has a higher binding affinity. IDK bro, read up on it. I guess I dont understand it well enough to explain it.
JWS77
...I am your Father
It's advised to run test lower than tren, because tren will bind quicker, therefore win for a spot on the androgen receptor. 19nor's, as in deca like compounds (the absence of the 19th carbon atom) makes it much slower to androgen reception (agonist) ...as compared to tren (antagonist). If you want to bump your test to 750mg, don't even bother with the tren at that point. You can effectively use 750mg test with a lower dose deca or any other 19nor compound. You'll just be wasting test if you run it over and above your tren dose.
Good luck
JWS77
...I am your Father
That's fine. Wait for the esters in your tren to subside before you blast the test. I forget what ester your tren is but If it is tren acetate, you can begin to blast test 4 days after last last tren ace pin. For tren enanthate, you can begin to blast test 14-17 after last tren e pin. Good idea to run test for an extra week or two after anyway for better pct.
hothead
Eat,Sleep,Lift
So my final cycle should look like this(with respect of what you said,the tren ace will bind quicker and any test over the tren would be wasted):
week 1-4:
test cyp 100mg wk
tren ace 225-250mg eod
week 4-10
test cyp 700-750mg wk
does that sound better?if not please show me your best thought for it.
week 1-4:
test cyp 100mg wk
tren ace 225-250mg eod
week 4-10
test cyp 700-750mg wk
does that sound better?if not please show me your best thought for it.
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