Tren the biggest myth.

Yes they're overhyped at times but still not good for a first cycle. That being said the only side I'm experiencing at this point, 9 days in a test prop/tren ace cycle is a disturbance to my sleep and a bit of sweating. Nothing too extreme tho. 100mg/prop 75mg/tren eod
 
old&stacked said:
If you have mods and folks with decades of AAS use saying to first time users not to I tend to listen.

What we are trying to say is not to down play tren sides. Just because 9 out of 10 suffer mild to low tren sides there is that 1 individual that hasvall of them. Are we the same guys in tgose boards that we look at and shake our heads in disbelife or do we want to set this forum apart as one who does the right thing. We can be like every other forum that is full of meat heads or we can be the forum that makes sure we inform our members those whoa view us and know we are not a bunch juice heads but thinking individuals who happen to use AAS. That is the reason I joined and take part here. I am not a member of another board everything I meed specially well though out advice I find it here. Hard to find anywhere else.
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Almost EVERY board preaches that tren is the devil and that test only should be your first cycle.

I think both these things are complete bullshit. If you're going to be using hormones you might as well use the correct hormones to suit your needs. This doesn't mean using irresponsible dosages or using as many different drugs for the first time as you can. The idea of a one size fits all cycle is beyond me considering the immense variation in genetics and goals.

With tren, the worst case scenario is somebody suffers all the sides and they drop the tren and it clears there system very quickly because they are probably using tren a. No big deal at all. What about the 1/10 person that doesn't respond well to test? They can't just drop it and let it clear quickly, they're stuck dealing with it for a good couple weeks.
 
noway55 said:
Almost EVERY board preaches that tren is the devil and that test only should be your first cycle.

I think both these things are complete bullshit. If you're going to be using hormones you might as well use the correct hormones to suit your needs. This doesn't mean using irresponsible dosages or using as many different drugs for the first time as you can. The idea of a one size fits all cycle is beyond me considering the immense variation in genetics and goals.

With tren, the worst case scenario is somebody suffers all the sides and they drop the tren and it clears there system very quickly because they are probably using tren a. No big deal at all. What about the 1/10 person that doesn't respond well to test? They can't just drop it and let it clear quickly, they're stuck dealing with it for a good couple weeks.
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You dont put a 16 yr old newly liscensed driver behind a 5000 hp dragster. Yeah hell know how to shut it off but until it comes to a stop he will have to deal with that monster just like you dont want to put a new aas user at the end of a pin full of tren.

I am from the school of crawl walk and run. You crawl to get used to it then you walk to get your feet under you and then once you have enough practice you cam run as fast amd long as you want. Tren is going from a standstill not even crawling to a full out sprint.

But then again we are all adults and we do what we want to do when we choose to.
 
old&stacked said:
You dont put a 16 yr old newly liscensed driver behind a 5000 hp dragster. Yeah hell know how to shut it off but until it comes to a stop he will have to deal with that monster just like you dont want to put a new aas user at the end of a pin full of tren.

I am from the school of crawl walk and run. You crawl to get used to it then you walk to get your feet under you and then once you have enough practice you cam run as fast amd long as you want. Tren is going from a standstill not even crawling to a full out sprint.

But then again we are all adults and we do what we want to do when we choose to.
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What would you recommend for a cutting cycle, other than testosterone (i.e. a walking cut)?
 
I am relativity new to AAS (2 oral dbol cycles and one nandrotest400 + dbol oral cycle+pct) I was considering running tren for my 4th cycle but I did listen to the vets. I have decided to go the bread and butter route again but this time no blend just going for deca and test p separate but still going to respect the deca as both deca and tren as a base have pretty hard sides. Be a user not an abuser is my noob wisdom ;)
 
Every one here makes some valid points. I am glad to see how many members here actually give a shit about first time steroid users and novices not using tren. One thing that interests me is how gh15 advocates using tren for up to 6 months. What is your guys guess would happen to some one if they did do that. Would it destroy their kidneys or liver? Do you guys think the pros use tren for insane ammounts of time like that? I know these are weird questions I am just curious as to what people's opinion about tren cycles that are insanely long are.
 
Mad- scientist said:
Every one here makes some valid points. I am glad to see how many members here actually give a shit about first time steroid users and novices not using tren. One thing that interests me is how gh15 advocates using tren for up to 6 months. What is your guys guess would happen to some one if they did do that. Would it destroy their kidneys or liver? Do you guys think the pros use tren for insane ammounts of time like that? I know these are weird questions I am just curious as to what people's opinion about tren cycles that are insanely long are.
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no one runs tren for 6 months.. whoever said that is a fucking asshole
 
Methodology said:
What would you recommend for a cutting cycle, other than testosterone (i.e. a walking cut)?
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You say no test but u can do a Test p and eq and u can cut and be damn hard. But remember thata just yhe help. Diet diet diet....cardio 3-5 a week no less than 45min or interval cardio with interval training. But like I say and many here will tell you it comes down to diet.

Keep your eq to 300-400 mg weekly for this. The water gains are minimal. You can probably add some var to tgis also but am not a big oral guy either.
 
I dont think tren is anything to take lightly. I have heard a lot of horror stories on here about people having horrible aggression and depression. Then there is the other end of the spectrum, where people can take 100mg a day of tren and feel pretty good. Im one of the lucky ones I guess, but I was glad I did my research and started off at SMALL doses. Its naive to say that just because you have minimal sides on a lot of tren, the dude sitting next to you wont have sides either. Everyones body is different. Some people have insane blood pressure on EQ, some dont notice a damn thing. You have to start out slow and find whats best for you. I would have never touched tren if i were not focused on competing. Using it to stay lean all year for the hoes is retarded. Yes you will be shredded, but so will your cholesterol and blood pressure
 
What most people don't understand is that when vets or experienced users give advice to first timers there are many factors involved not cause cause its tren. You need to realize that for maximum keepable results your diet must be top notch and down to a science, diet should be a routine everyday and not something that needs thought when you wake up. That being said 90% of first time steroid users have no clue what they are doing diet wise therefor spectacular results in this case can easily be attained by run a 500 mg test only cycle so why compound 2 cemicals and overload your body when its not need.

So basically when people are told to wait for tren sure its because of sides but there are so many other factors as well
 
another here that hasn't experienced any nasty tren sides . not a newbie tho. will say, to the guy who started this. to each his own but you probably would have had the same gains with test only. just not advisable for anyone starting to use one of the most harsh compounds from start. you will doubtfully gain any more than you would test only. believe when you get multiple cycles under belt and trying to break boundaries, then more powerful compounds are in order.
 
You guys are absolutely NUTS if you think you can get the same gains off of test that you can from tren, regardless of whether or not it's a first cycle.
 
Not running tren first cycle has nothing to do with preping for the sides... its because you need to know how your body reacts to each AAS before you just go combining them all. When you start with test cyp for example you can see how you react to it, and if all is good then next time you can add something else, if you just combine them all at once, and you start getting problems, you'll have no idea which compound it is thats causing them.
 
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