Using Letro to reverse Gyno

[JB_123]

If anyone has had experience with using letro to reverse gyno, I would appreciate your input.

I've browsed a couple threads on this forum before, mainly to get info on gyno; but since I'm just now registering, I figure it's best to give you guys some background info.

I'm 20, and have been in the gym for almost 4 years now. About 3 years ago, I was routinely working out with a buddy of mine. A friend of his recommended taking E-pol to gain some size, and Nolva-dex when he finished the bottle of E-pol. Within a couple weeks, I could tell he was getting bigger/stronger. We were both always pretty skinny, so seeing him getting results made me want to try it. I was young and unaware, and all I wanted to do was get bigger.

Anyways, I took it for a few weeks while working out, then I became quite busy and stopped working out for a few weeks (and didn't finish the bottle, nor start the Nolvadex.) A few weeks later when I got back in the gym, I started taking my weeks worth of e-pol and then started the nolva, stopped the nolva for a couple weeks, then started it again (as i was in/out the gym).

I gained a good bit of weight and strength throughout that time, then months later I noticed tenderness in my chest. I didn't really pay any mind to it for a couple months, I thought I had just overworked a muscle or something. Then I noticed the lump and became concerned. I did 6 hours of straight research about what gynecomastia was, how I got it, and how the only way to get rid of it was surgery.

My buddy got the same lump, went to the doctor, and had it surgically removed. His surgery was covered under his dad's military insurance. Mine wouldn't be.

Throughout months, the lump continued to grow on my left side. The right shrunk a good bit, but the left continued until it was the height & width of a golf ball.

Eventually, the tenderness went away, and I forgot about it (besides when I looked in the mirror at my puffy nipples), up until December. I was laying on the sofa next to my gf, and she pushed her elbow into my left pec as she went to stand up, causing me to instantly jump. Since then, the tenderness was back.

A friend of mine on his 3rd cycle got a lump the same size of mine about 20 months ago, and went to an endocrinologist. He took arimidex at 1mg for 1 year before his gyno was gone, and another 6 months to balance out his test/estro. About 4 months ago, I went to that same doctor, and started taking arimidex in April. Halfway into my 3rd month of Arimidex, I was talking to a friend of mine that had gyno a couple years ago, and he told me how using Arimidex for 1.5 years isn't good. He told me about his success with using Letro to reverse gyno. I did a search and found the thread on here:

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/145997-good-read-regarding-gyno-letro.html

He had followed the same protocol.

I ordered 2 bottles of Letro from RUI and 1 bottle of Nolva. I tapered up, and have been at 2.5mg for 4 weeks now. I haven't really payed that much attention to my chest, nor have I been feeling it everyday, because I know it can sometimes take a while for the Letro to kick in. Today is my 6th day into my 2nd bottle. The tenderness has been gone for a few weeks now, and the small amount of gyno on my right side feels a tad bit smaller (it was already quite small), and the lump on my left side is a little small than 1" in width, and about 1" in height. If I recall, it was probably about 1.5" in width before starting Letro (I had never noticed any changes while on Arimidex for those 3 months). Also, my sex drive ran away from home about a month ago.

I tapered on correctly:
Day 1 - .5mg
Day 2 - 1.0mg
Day 3 - 1.5mg
Day 4 - 2.0mg
Day 5 - 2.5mg

and have been at 2.5mg since. As said in the thread posted above, I plan to take letro at 2.5mg for 5-7 days after I notice my gyno is gone, and start 30mg of nolva on my last day of Letro, stay at 30mg for 1 week, then 20mg for week 2 and 3, then stop completely.

Since e-pol, I have NEVER taken anything besides multi-vitamins (Orange Triad) and protein powder. I have < 10% body fat, and I eat pretty healthy, they aren't fat deposits. I rarely ever drink anymore, and I smoke 3-5 times a week. Since I have seen some results from the letro, I figure it is working. Maybe slower than other people have experienced, but it is working. If my gyno isnt gone by Monday after next, I plan to order a 3rd bottle to ensure I have it when I finish this one. (I would have to notice my gyno is gone by August 31, so that I have letro left to take 2.5mg for another 7 days, then taper down .5mg each day)


Now, the main reason I made this thread is to find answers to these questions:


> Is there a period in time in which I should stop taking Letro if isn't gone by then? If so, when?

> Should I stay at 2.5mg or increase my doseages? If I should increase, how should I taper off? Then more or less Nolva?



Any additional input is welcomed.

Thank you for reading.

 

[JB_123]

Bump, hoping for some answers/responses.

I'm guessing nobody wants to read it, so I'll sum it up..

I'm 20, and I've had gyno for 3 years.

In April, I started taking Arimidex @ 1mg for 3 months, then switched to letro (from RUI)

Tapered on letro, 0.5mg - 2.5mg from day 1 to day 5. I've been at 2.5mg since, and am going on my 2nd week of my 2nd bottle, still at 2.5mg.

I am seeing results slowly, for the lump on my left pec was much larger than the right.

> Is there a period in time in which I should stop taking letro if isn't gone by then? If so, when?

> Should I stay at 2.5mg or increase my doseages? If I should increase, how should I taper off? Then more or less Nolva?

Any useful information would be very much appreciated!

 

[grind4it]

I am assuming you are not cycling any AASs. With that said i am not a doctor and all i can do is tell you the protocol i followed when i was trying (sucessfully) to remove my gyno lump.

No, you can run the Letro at 2.5 mg for a couple of additional weeks if needed. I'm assuming it has already knocked your dick in the dirt. If not, get ready. I lost my sex drive for a solid month after I followed the above protocol. Personally, I ran the Letro at 2.5mg for three weeks past my lump disappearing.

I tapered the Letro in the reverse of the tapper up in the above protocol you mentioned in your original post. Once I got down to the .25mg level I switched over to Adex at .5mg EOD for two weeks, then down to .25mg EOD. This is my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) mainance level. if I were not on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) I would have run the Adex at .25mg EOD for two weeks then I would have discontinued everything.

 

[clsmth700]

Ive seen the original "good reading thread" about letro - very interesting

Grind did it work for the lump ? if so how long ago

 

[ryansm]

Here is a good article on helping to fight gyno 16 Ways to Fight Gynecomastia | Primordial Performance Blog

 

[China_Wall]

ok, I'm gonna be blunt and to the point...

drugs like letro, arimidex, nolva etc have the ability to reduce gyno (letro being most effective), but NONE of these can reverse or get rid of it. ONLY surgery can successfully remove the gyno.

don't start self-medicating with letro, it's a very serious compound, with very severe lasting side effects such as permanently destroyed estro levels.

U can continue to take the meds, but all they will do is keep the gyno in a dormant state, keeping it from growing... BUT if u do decide to do a cycle in future u MUST run a decent amount of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (arimidex or aromasin) to keep the gyno from increasing

 

[grind4it]

Yes, the lump is completely gone. 6-8 months have gone and the lump has not come back. I have been down under 10% BF and you could not see or feel the lump.

Ive seen the original "good reading thread" about letro - very interesting


With respect brother, I agree in principal. However after experiencing the effects of gyno first hand I did not, and do not now care if the gyno is gone or has been reduced to the point of not being able to see or feel it and keeping it in a dormant state.

I also agree with the statment that we should not self-medicate. With that said, all of the compounds in this game have severe lasting effects if not researched and run correctly. A lot of the guys on this site do not have the means to get surgery to remove a gyno lump. I highly recommend researching this subject before following the letro protocol. The same level of research that would go into running any cycle.

In regards to your statment about running AIs with future cycles as a result of keeping gyno from increasing; if you develop gyno on cycle and have to run the letro protocol to reverse (or to your point, reduce the size of the lump and keep it in a dormante state), or for that matter pony up the money to have the lump surgically removed. It is my option that this should indicate that you should probably add an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to your cycle as good practice.

ok, I'm gonna be blunt and to the point...

drugs like letro, arimidex, nolva etc have the ability to reduce gyno (letro being most effective), but NONE of these can reverse or get rid of it. ONLY surgery can successfully remove the gyno.

don't start self-medicating with letro, it's a very serious compound, with very severe lasting side effects such as permanently destroyed estro levels.

U can continue to take the meds, but all they will do is keep the gyno in a dormant state, keeping it from growing... BUT if u do decide to do a cycle in future u MUST run a decent amount of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (arimidex or aromasin) to keep the gyno from increasing

 

[ryansm]

ok, I'm gonna be blunt and to the point...

drugs like letro, arimidex, nolva etc have the ability to reduce gyno (letro being most effective), but NONE of these can reverse or get rid of it. ONLY surgery can successfully remove the gyno.

don't start self-medicating with letro, it's a very serious compound, with very severe lasting side effects such as permanently destroyed estro levels.

U can continue to take the meds, but all they will do is keep the gyno in a dormant state, keeping it from growing... BUT if u do decide to do a cycle in future u MUST run a decent amount of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (arimidex or aromasin) to keep the gyno from increasing

^^^I agree about the use of letro, I have experienced this myself although some do claim it reversed their gyno I have to question whether it was gyno in the first place. However, DHT has been shown to prevent and reverse gyno.