wanting to stop cycle early.. help

[getchunk]

Hey guys,
I recently started a test e cycle of 300mg per week. i have been training for 4 years, am 21 years old, and in this time i have put on about 5 kg (which i know is mostly water, reason being a moon face etc). I'm currently regretting starting my cycle as i haven't been feeling normal while i have been on it, especially during this last week. I am thinking it may be because of high oestrogen as i know this is a side effect along with the water retention. I also have a slightly red face. My planned cycle was 8 weeks of 300mg along with 500ui of HCG, and i am currently 2 weeks in and seriously considering stopping. I was after anyones advice on if they think i should abort, and if i should go about the pct as normal. please any advice is greatly appreciated

 

[Brendanj9554]

Sounds like you need to get your E2 under control if you haven't been running an AI. That's most likely the reason your feeling like crap. Get your hands onto some aromisin or Adex asap. Dosage if different with both compounds, one being ED and the other EOD or E4D. Just coming off cycle will not help at all.... I am guessing you don't have any PCT on hand either. You need clomid and nolvadex.

If you end cycle or continue you will still need AI/PCT or things will only get worse

 

[getchunk]

I have already bought some liquidex and i am getting it tomorrow. For my case what dose should you think i should take? i am thinking that the E2 is the reason to blame for my weird moods. seriously making me feel like a little girl as I'm worrying about everything. i was thinking .25 ED but open to suggestions. How long after taking adex should the sides start to disappear? thanks mate

 

[Brendanj9554]

The best way I can explain it is that the test your using is converting.... And the end result is estrogen, your showing all the classic signs.

A blood test would really be best to see where your levels are at. That way it's not guess work with dosage and so on.

And yes. Start with .25 ED, you will soon start to feel like you again. This doesn't mean you should increase the dose, from there you would back off the dose to EOD to dial it in, to much and you will crash your E2 and that doesn't feel any better. If you can get a blood test asap do it. And some pct.

 

[getchunk]

At the gp now getting tests done! Hopefully after a few days of adex The sides will go away. Cheers mate

 

[Brendanj9554]

At the gp now getting tests done! Hopefully after a few days of adex The sides will go away. Cheers mate

Let us know how you get on with your GP bro. And it's your choice but there's benefits to being honest with them about AAS use. Yes you will get the lecture and how bad there are and so on, but for instance, I go to my doctor after every cycle and pct is complete and get bloods done, full report. Liver values everything. He doesn't even question me when I request. He knows that although I am using AAS I am aware of the risks but still care enough about my health.

 

[Megatron28]

Hey guys,
I recently started a test e cycle of 300mg per week. i have been training for 4 years, am 21 years old, and in this time i have put on about 5 kg (which i know is mostly water, reason being a moon face etc). I'm currently regretting starting my cycle as i haven't been feeling normal while i have been on it, especially during this last week. I am thinking it may be because of high oestrogen as i know this is a side effect along with the water retention. I also have a slightly red face. My planned cycle was 8 weeks of 300mg along with 500ui of HCG, and i am currently 2 weeks in and seriously considering stopping. I was after anyones advice on if they think i should abort, and if i should go about the pct as normal. please any advice is greatly appreciated

Just stop pinning and begin PCT in two weeks. Please lay out what your planned PCT protocol is so wee can evaluate it.

 

[tbonexl]

Telling your doc about your aas use is not a good idea. He will document it and insurance companies will have access to it. God forbid if you have any health issues later on down the line, your "drug abuse" will be to blame and put you at high risk with your insurance provider. Some providers require a test for tobacco use for instance and set your premium accordingly. As far as being 21 and starting a cycle that you have no business doing, I suggest you abort and get your pct intact. Shouldn't start a cycle without knowing what your getting into and not having everything you need regardless of age...

 

[getchunk]

my planned pct was nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50. does this sound right to you. i also have arimidex on hand. should i incorporate this into the pct? cheers. thinking I'm going to stop. i have only done 4 pins.

 

[getchunk]

Should I keep taking hcg for these next 2 weeks before pct?

 

[Brendanj9554]

Telling your doc about your aas use is not a good idea. He will document it and insurance companies will have access to it. God forbid if you have any health issues later on down the line, your "drug abuse" will be to blame and put you at high risk with your insurance provider. Some providers require a test for tobacco use for instance and set your premium accordingly. As far as being 21 and starting a cycle that you have no business doing, I suggest you abort and get your pct intact. Shouldn't start a cycle without knowing what your getting into and not having everything you need regardless of age...

thats my bad, i assume everywhere is like the UK. with the NHS we dont pay for private insurance, we just have national insurance taken out of our pay each week/month. i should have been clearer.

 

[Megatron28]

my planned pct was nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50. does this sound right to you. i also have arimidex on hand. should i incorporate this into the pct? cheers. thinking I'm going to stop. i have only done 4 pins.

I would run the clomid for 4 weeks as well. And start it at 75 the first week instead of 100.

Normally I would recommend hCG before PCT starts, but not in your case as you have only pinned 4 times. hCG is suppressive to your HPTA and you likely haven't had any testicular atrophy. So I don't think it is a good idea in your case.

An AI won't be needed during PCT.

 

[getchunk]

I was also wondering when i should stop my HCG. my last shot was on the day of my last pin, i have been reading that you should stop 3 days out and also you should stop last pin? suggestions considering my case?

 

[Megatron28]

I was also wondering when i should stop my HCG. my last shot was on the day of my last pin, i have been reading that you should stop 3 days out and also you should stop last pin? suggestions considering my case?

See post #12 for my previous response on hCG.

 

[getchunk]

so I'm currently doing my pct.. I'm 1 week in and its been over 3 weeks since my last pin.. I was expecting my libido to drop off but i am seriously walking around with a boner like all day still. this normal ???

My pct I'm running
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20/20
DAA 3mg ED