ssmla, I agree with that statement, but i dont find myself getting to that stage whatsoever. Im finding that with the more water im taking right now, im holding very little water, not pissing every 10 min. (i take pee breaks every hour approx) and am not experiencing dehydration whatsoever even since im on the EC stack. I find that since im up every morning at 530 am, by the time im done the gym at 9 am (go to the gym at 7) im already through 2-3 gallons. Through the day, i drink about another 3-4 by the end of my day working, which is around 6-7, then cardio in the evening...thats another gallon in that hour. Then one last gallon or two by the time i go to bed, which is around 11pm