Water weight with Test E... no AI

[copaseet]

Is it possible for someone to gain 15-20 pounds on Test if not using an AI?

 

[3J]

yea.. you can easily gain that in water weight

 

[JimiThing]

I dont know I run my cycle properly with an ai but yeah id say so and shortly after they will probably expereince the nasty sides of greatly elevated e2 in all likelihood. Thats the straight scoop.

 

[Shredchem]

Yes, easily.

 

[copaseet]

Im not using an AI.. I have the following readings...

T - 1954 ng/dl
E - 46 pmol/L.... reference range < 157 pmol/L is normal

... my E is low somehow, but I feel like im holding a ton of water... how is this possible?

 

[JimiThing]

Im not using an AI.. I have the following readings...

T - 1954 ng/dl
E - 46 pmol/L.... reference range < 157 pmol/L is normal

... my E is low somehow, but I feel like im holding a ton of water... how is this possible?

Because ref ranges are broad and you may not have the more accurate reflecting sensitive assay result. I like my e2 around 27-29 ....

 

[copaseet]

your e2 around 27-29 naturally or on an AI?

 

[JimiThing]

your e2 around 27-29 naturally or on an AI?

On cycle with ai..but off i stay under 35 usually. (sensitive assay)

 

[Black Beard]

That's a good E level with that much test. You might actually not need AI, especially if you have no symptoms. Just genetics i guess. You probably have lower levels of aromatase enzyme in your body. There is a phenotype for that, so it's not unheard of. Water weight is normal.

 

[copaseet]

That's a good E level with that much test. You might actually not need AI, especially if you have no symptoms. Just genetics i guess. You probably have lower levels of aromatase enzyme in your body. There is a phenotype for that, so it's not unheard of. Water weight is normal.

Isnt the aromatization what causes the water weight?

 

[Black Beard]

I believe it mostly comes from estrogen, yes. If you are feeling strong and getting your lifts up and your joints feel good, i would probably just finish up the cycle. You will drop the water weight afterwards. It wouldn't hurt to try some low dose AI and see if that helps with the water weight, just watch how you are feeling after you bring your E2 down. The aesthetics come after you cut, bulking sucks in that regard. I fucking hate water weight and bloat, especially in the face. Makes me sick to look in the mirror

 

[copaseet]

I believe it mostly comes from estrogen, yes. If you are feeling strong and getting your lifts up and your joints feel good, i would probably just finish up the cycle. You will drop the water weight afterwards. It wouldn't hurt to try some low dose AI and see if that helps with the water weight, just watch how you are feeling after you bring your E2 down. The aesthetics come after you cut, bulking sucks in that regard. I fucking hate water weight and bloat, especially in the face. Makes me sick to look in the mirror

... cool.. thanks for the info... moon face is definitely getting to me

 

[copaseet]

On cycle with ai..but off i stay under 35 usually. (sensitive assay)

just curious.. are you naturally lean?

 

[Black Beard]

Try to avoid sodium, and stay hydrated. Up your potassium intake as well(avocados, banana, pomegranate juice)

 

[copaseet]

Try to avoid sodium, and stay hydrated. Up your potassium intake as well(avocados, banana, pomegranate juice)

will do.

 

[louman]

Is it possible for someone to gain 15-20 pounds on Test if not using an AI?

Some water weight could be diet related eg higher carb, sodium etc. In general if bulking you will hold water natty guys included. My first test cycle I gained about 26-27 pounds and looked leaner than before cycle which was great. I barley used my adex maybe .5 every 6 days if that. After cycle I only lost about 6-8. I kept at least 15 of it. I kept training hard and eating. Didn't loose strength but def stalled for 2 months after cycle no gainz etc.