Went to Anti-Aging Doc, Prescribed a TON???

But you don't have hypothyroidism as far as I can tell.

she said i have subclinical and previous tests before during 2014 had my tsh around 4.62 once and 3.89 another time... always stayed above 2.88 and as high as the upper limits of 4...

think i should hold off on thyroid treatment?

just seems like a crap ton of stuff to be put on all at once...
 
she said i have subclinical and previous tests before during 2014 had my tsh around 4.62 once and 3.89 another time... always stayed above 2.88 and as high as the upper limits of 4...

think i should hold off on thyroid treatment?

just seems like a crap ton of stuff to be put on all at once...

I can't advise you on that. You have to make the call.
 
I assume that OP ia natty. When the HPTA feedback loop is "open" AI's work a little differently. They don't crash your E2 because you compensate by cranking out more testosterone so there is more available to aromatize. It is kind of like running a SERM while natty.

Depends...
you can take an A.i. while natty and stll not crank enough Test out. Depends how healthy your balls are.
 
I was really hoping that i would be prescribed gh or ghrp's and ghrh's but that wasn't the case... just dont have low igf scores to warrant that.. although she said CA's range is up to 432, i land at around 300 and the low range is 150.... 150-432, but fall in the 300's... shucks....

can anyone comment on the hydrocortisone pills? i'm uneasy about that... and dont quite know...

Hydrocortisone is known by its other name around here - cortisol. The doc likely believes you have adrenal issues and is trying to attack it from both ends of the spectrum; adrenaline/epinephrine/norepinephrine and it's antagonist, hydrocortisone/cortisol. While cortisol does get a bad name, it is an essential hormone to keep your body from burning itself out.

I have adrenal problems myself, and my cortisol is VERY low in the morning, which means I wake up with an unwanted adrenaline spike - making me a bit grumpy. It's common with thyroid/HPTA issues, but often overlooked.
 
Hydrocortisone is known by its other name around here - cortisol. The doc likely believes you have adrenal issues and is trying to attack it from both ends of the spectrum; adrenaline/epinephrine/norepinephrine and it's antagonist, hydrocortisone/cortisol. While cortisol does get a bad name, it is an essential hormone to keep your body from burning itself out.

I have adrenal problems myself, and my cortisol is VERY low in the morning, which means I wake up with an unwanted adrenaline spike - making me a bit grumpy. It's common with thyroid/HPTA issues, but often overlooked.

I always thought you were a cuddly little sponge first thing in the morning. ;-)
 
Hydrocortisone is known by its other name around here - cortisol. The doc likely believes you have adrenal issues and is trying to attack it from both ends of the spectrum; adrenaline/epinephrine/norepinephrine and it's antagonist, hydrocortisone/cortisol. While cortisol does get a bad name, it is an essential hormone to keep your body from burning itself out.

I have adrenal problems myself, and my cortisol is VERY low in the morning, which means I wake up with an unwanted adrenaline spike - making me a bit grumpy. It's common with thyroid/HPTA issues, but often overlooked.

Interesting, so did you have to do a cortisol test to find this out by spitting inside a tube 4 x day and sending it to a lab? I had to complete this along with and lh/fsh tube where i pour the afternoon liquid into it and send off... still waiting on those results.
 
the wp thyroid and AI are a good deal and they might help you. That e2 is high and thyroid is subclinical but not normal. The rest is horseshit. You could try thyroid and AI. The thyroid doesn't usually shutdown from exogenous supplementation. Optimizing thyroid hormone levels and estradiol are not a bad idea. Like half wit said, the other crap is overpriced vitamins. Don't ask me about the cortisone, I'm a noob with the adrenal axis stuff =P
 
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the wp thyroid and AI are a good deal and they might help you. That e2 is high and thyroid is subclinical but not normal. The rest is horseshit. You could try thyroid and AI. The thyroid doesn't usually shutdown from exogenous supplementation. Optimizing thyroid hormone levels and estradiol are not a bad idea. Like half wit said, the other crap is overpriced vitamins. Don't ask me about the cortisone, I'm a noob with the adrenal axis stuff =P


Thanks for your feedback, but the only problem i see is that the labs didn't give me a range... i know it was ultra sensitive, it was just adult estradiol.... it's rather strange, but i think my only option is to call them tomorrow and ask what the range is what that? Does anyone know what it is? I know different labs, use different ranges....
 
20-30 pg/ml is what many consider optimal.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that based on an e2 ultra sensitive?
Mine was done just estradiol, adult.... so I think the range may be different...

I will clarify with the lab tomorrow and hopefully have an answer...
 
Interesting, so did you have to do a cortisol test to find this out by spitting inside a tube 4 x day and sending it to a lab? I had to complete this along with and lh/fsh tube where i pour the afternoon liquid into it and send off... still waiting on those results.

Yes, I performed a salivary test. I suspected I had an issue though based on symptoms.
 
FWIW all of my labs have been the non-sensitive ones from LabCorp and list a range of 7.6 - 42.6.

Mine was done at an actual hospital that has a laboratory. They couldn't give me the ranges becuz they send it out to ARULAB.com
Just a bunch of idiots who don't know what to do I guess...
The range could be anything, could be <130 or 20-60? who knows...
oh well
 
Mine was done at an actual hospital that has a laboratory. They couldn't give me the ranges becuz they send it out to ARULAB.com
Just a bunch of idiots who don't know what to do I guess...
The range could be anything, could be <130 or 20-60? who knows...
oh well

A lot of people in the medical field suck at their job. They lack the passion and the interest to do their job right. A nurse at a place i used to work at got a BP of 70/40 on a patient and didn't call 911. The patient died the same day.
 
Hi, Nice to be here. I really need some knowlege based on anti aging. First ly I am a female in my mid 40"s. I am about 5 feet 5 inches tall. I weight about 125 lbs. My concerns are teh following:
thinning hair getting grey,, very thin skin that is loose, can't lose weight although diet is great and only exercise a little bit. Low thyroid (not bad because I never had a problem before. brain got, and vision is getting bad although I have never needed glasses. I have read for weeks on several topics on what could help so here is what I am debating upon:
1. Epitalion or Epitalon for anti aging and lengthening telomeres
2. Semorelin/ and Ipamorelin so I do't get all the bad sides and I don't work out all that much very busy with family mostly on the go.
3. HGH -cost is a litttle to hgih for me at the time
Also looked at injecting GHK-CU l copper peptides for skin and hair. CAN THAT BE INJECTED SUB Q? I can't lose any weight so its really messing up my sense of well being. I was always thin and tan in my younger years. ANY SARMS? MK-466? EPO? for rejuvinating blood? Oxytocin for overall feeling happy and euphoric.
I am tired of spending all my money and a lot of times on scammers and b.s. products that show no results.. I want what works and I will stay committed to whatever protocol I buy. Please help if anyone has any good knowlegeable feed back or better yet if any of you have experimented yourselfs. I am open to new and better options as well. Also what daeages are recommended to inject to how many milligrams, and how many iu's to inject.. Most appreciated for whatever you feel actually works and whatever knowledge you can share I would be forever grateful !
Sincerely, :LEXY[/B]
 
Eh, you should start your own thread. For starters, get blood work for your thyroid. "Low thyroid" is very vague. If you optimize a bad thyroid, you should see in improvement in a lot of areas. Other than that, getting lean and building some lean muscle will go a long way in making you look and feel better. You don't need drugs to achieve this. Just some knowledge and consistency.
 
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