What about head aches and Dboll ...

[oldmusclemike]

I haven't done Dbol in many, many years and I'm wondering if anyone has had a problem with log lasting dull head aches.
my cycle is :
Test E 600mg wk
Deca 600mg wk
Dbol 50mg ed
Adex .25 eod

My blood pressure usually runs 130/75 or 80. I haven't been checking it but this am, now is from 168/103 to 153/97 so I'm thinking it's my BP this morning. Ya think it's the Dbol.

Coments?

 

[49ER]

I haven't done Dbol in many, many years and I'm wondering if anyone has had a problem with log lasting dull head aches.
my cycle is :
Test E 600mg wk
Deca 600mg wk
Dbol 50mg ed
Adex .25 eod

My blood pressure usually runs 130/75 or 80. I haven't been checking it but this am, now is from 168/103 to 153/97 so I'm thinking it's my BP this morning. Ya think it's the Dbol.

Coments?

My head usually always hurts when bp goes up ive never tolerated dbol well i also get headaches from SD

 

[oldmusclemike]

My head usually always hurts when bp goes up ive never tolerated dbol well i also get headaches from SD

That's what I'm thinking, thanks. See what others have to say in regard to the Dbol.

 

[Wake8er]

I'm on 30mg per day of dbol with test p. zero headaches. I have had 2 small nose bleeds though

 

[halfwit]

Yup, blood pressure related. Might want to increase that AI if you're noticing other sides from estradiol. I tend to get it bad from high bp and/or high hematocrit at least.

 

[Southernfish]

Mike, Id bump the AI to .5 EOD and see what happens with that. My assumption? The Dbol for sure, it aromatizes like crazy. High E2=increased water retention=high blood pressure.

Also jump on some cialis if you have access to it as it is a vasodilator and will help control BP.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Wow sorry I was gone all evening and didn't get back here.
Thanks for the input. Ya know I can't get BW until I get paid next week so I'll be in the dark.

I was also thinking about my AI dose when I took it today at .25 EOD. I am having horrible, sweats like all the time. Not so far from the nights seats from Tren. When I eat I breakout in a terrible sweat.
I keep having bouts with profuse sweats and have to take my shirt off and run a fan on me.

My wife has blankets on her in the L/R watching TV and I'm sweating bullets. Ah Ha I thought this is like ... "High Estrogen"

I got board on just now to ask your thoughts on upping the Arimidex to .5 EOD or .25 ED. The last time a few years a go I crashed my E2 and as I've told others, " I'd rather die" I'm paranoid of a crash, it will ruin me and my cycle. The sides of no appetite, no energy etc.. are just so prevalent.

I am distraught that I can't get the BW now, $$$$

So what's the verdict here guys

 

[oldmusclemike]

Just now too my BP and it is 150 / 111 and pulse 81. Bad head ache all day worse tonight. I don't want to back off the Dbol yet it's much too early. only 18 days in.

PS: no water retention yet. My weight is only up 2lbs +/-.

My caloric intake is not up enough yet $$$$$$$$$$

Tonight I did my .25 Arimidex so you think I should go ahead and bump it up tonight the other .25 ?

I think I need to get on this ASAP

 

[oldmusclemike]

I plugged it in so I'll see how I feel on .5 EOD

 

[Southernfish]

I would try that and then recheck that BP in a bit. Then get that BW as soon as you can?

Do do you take Cialis Mike?

 

[oldmusclemike]

I would try that and then recheck that BP in a bit. Then get that BW as soon as you can?

Do do you take Cialis Mike?

I have taken Cialis and love it but remember my cash flow. To top off the cash flow at the current I am getting a new apartment and have ALL my money tied up for the next 30 days. SSD only goes so far.

I am feeling ok this am, but it's too early to tell. I was thinking of skipping my dose of Dbol today ?? Ya think?

Oh is it good to take Dbol pre workout. In the day we didn't pay attention to these things, just pop n pin.

 

[oldmusclemike]

I used Med lab for BW before who do you use?

 

[Southernfish]

I wouldnt bail on or skip a dose of dbol just yet. Give it a week and see how your BP is with increased AI dose.

I get my bloodwork through my Dr. Im in Canada so we dont have accesa to private bloodwork here

 

[halfwit]

Sweating is also a normal sign of androgens increasing your metabolism. Your body is putting calories to use immediately, which is a good sign. This is unless you're feeling cold or shaky at the same time - that is likely sugar related.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Sweating is also a normal sign of androgens increasing your metabolism. Your body is putting calories to use immediately, which is a good sign. This is unless you're feeling cold or shaky at the same time - that is likely sugar related.

I always sweat and sweat a little after a meal also I'm type ll diabetic, but man I am sweating almost like the Tren night sweats but all the time at very frequent intervals. This is not normal cycle heat of increased metabolism.

I know, I know........BW and BW and more BW Thanks for your input. OMM

 

[halfwit]

I always sweat and sweat a little after a meal also I'm type ll diabetic, but man I am sweating almost like the Tren night sweats but all the time at very frequent intervals. This is not normal cycle heat of increased metabolism.

I know, I know........BW and BW and more BW Thanks for your input. OMM

Keep us posted brother. I'm pretty sure everything will work out.

 

[oldmusclemike]

So I had upped the Adex to .5 as was suggested the other day. Today is the second day @ .5 mg and my blood pressure is back down to 123 / 74. No headache at all and just feel better all around. I didn't back off on the Dbol. Good advice from you Halfwit to up the Arimidex, thanks.
I just get scared of crashing.

I would know better w/ BW but gotta wait. All about the money. Can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Pay day will come soon, next week

 

[siq]

Yeah see this is why I'm not a fan of orals, too many sides like this. Head aches freak me out being a hypochondriac anyway... So i stay clear of em. Hearing post like this just reinforces my decision.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Yeah see this is why I'm not a fan of orals, too many sides like this. Head aches freak me out being a hypochondriac anyway... So i stay clear of em. Hearing post like this just reinforces my decision.

I never had a problem with Winstrol oral. BUT we know why, it doesn't Aromatize like Dbol. Is it the oral r is it the compound. IMOP it's the compound and it's characteristics with the E2 and how it aromatizes not that it is an oral.

I don't promote orals but sometimes we, in this case me have a specific personal reason as to why I've chosen to use Dbol (oral). I don't remember having any trouble with it many years ago when I was young.

FOr now I seem to have a handle on it. I'll know better in more time.

 

[siq]

I never had a problem with Winstrol oral. BUT we know why, it doesn't Aromatize like Dbol. Is it the oral r is it the compound. IMOP it's the compound and it's characteristics with the E2 and how it aromatizes not that it is an oral.

I don't promote orals but sometimes we, in this case me have a specific personal reason as to why I've chosen to use Dbol (oral). I don't remember having any trouble with it many years ago when I was young.

FOr now I seem to have a handle on it. I'll know better in more time.

Well I had a nightmare experience with prohormones when I was 19. Ever since then I've been heavily against orals. The sides were soo bad... Long story short, acne, depression, blood pressure, sex drive loss, started drinking heavily. Bad Bad deal... Anyway, yeah as far as orals go I've only had experience with pro-hormones and dbol... Never again. I always regretted not going straight to the real thing sooner.

Test is all I do now days with no problems at all...