What is everyone's testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) Protocol and experience?

[Megatron28]

I know that testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is different than running a AAS cycle but does body Fat % factor in when looking to add something like Nandrolone Decanoate? I know that body fat % needs to be lower than 15% when doing a cycle just didn't know if adding the Nandrolone Decanoate at a high Body Fat % would have negative sides.

You probably want to hear from Austin on this...

Only issue I am aware of is the need to have estradiol and prolactin managed. High fat % makes managing estradiol more difficult. So get that dialed in before you consider adding deca.

 

[Spunkey71]

You probably want to hear from Austin on this...

Only issue I am aware of is the need to have estradiol and prolactin managed. High fat % makes managing estradiol more difficult. So get that dialed in before you consider adding deca.

I agree, I would really like to hear Austin's opinion on this, I have been researching Nandrolone Decanoate and can really see the benefit of adding it to my treatment.

 

[Austin1]

I know that testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is different than running a AAS cycle but does body Fat % factor in when looking to add something like Nandrolone Decanoate? I know that body fat % needs to be lower than 15% when doing a cycle just didn't know if adding the Nandrolone Decanoate at a high Body Fat % would have negative sides.

With testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), you're likely on schedule for blood work. So that helps minimize the concern with regards to body fat. Scientifically speaking, it does play a role. Generally however, therapeutic doses of nandrolone are not alarming. I started with a dose of 100mg weekly for a couple years, and recently increased to 150 weekly. There hasnt been any noteworthy changes in my blood work.

For a more realistic approach, if body fat is in excess of 25 %, it's likely that body fat itself becomes a major component in joint pain. So losing weight would make more sense to relieve joints. Otherwise I don't see an issue with the common low doses.

 

[Spunkey71]

Thanks Austin, I appreciate you taking the time to answer! I go in for blood work on Monday, I will mention this to my doctor and guage his reaction.

 

[Austin1]

That's a lot of vitamin D! I'm taking 10,000 iu's daily and that gets me into the high 80's. Normal range is something like 30-100.

Yeah deficiency sucks. The 600k IU is a single injection. Not bad really. I've traced it down to a calcitonin (thyroid) deficiency. Strangely enough, all other thyroid hormones are in great shape. So now I'm trying to chase the cause of Calcitonin.

 

[Austin1]

Thanks Austin, I appreciate you taking the time to answer! I go in for blood work on Monday, I will mention this to my doctor and guage his reaction.

Anytime pal. Keep us posted on your blood work.

 

[Spunkey71]

With testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), you're likely on schedule for blood work. So that helps minimize the concern with regards to body fat. Scientifically speaking, it does play a role. Generally however, therapeutic doses of nandrolone are not alarming. I started with a dose of 100mg weekly for a couple years, and recently increased to 150 weekly. There hasnt been any noteworthy changes in my blood work.

For a more realistic approach, if body fat is in excess of 25 %, it's likely that body fat itself becomes a major component in joint pain. So losing weight would make more sense to relieve joints. Otherwise I don't see an issue with the common low doses.

Austin,

When you are taking a therapeutic dose of nandrolone at 100mgs a week along with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) do you cycle the nandrolone or do you run it consistently year round like you do your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) Test dose?

 

[Austin1]

Austin,

When you are taking a therapeutic dose of nandrolone at 100mgs a week along with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) do you cycle the nandrolone or do you run it consistently year round like you do your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) Test dose?

I run it year round.

 

[Spunkey71]

Ever since Deca was mentioned I have been doing a lot of reading up on it and I think it could be a great addition to my treatment, I am so so tired of being in constant pain all the time. I am curious, do you get any of the anabolic benefits of deca on a low dose of 100-200 mgs a week? Will you have the sides such as the heavy bloat and deca dick on a 100-200 mgs a week dose?

 

[SilverBackGorilla]

Ever since Deca was mentioned I have been doing a lot of reading up on it and I think it could be a great addition to my treatment, I am so so tired of being in constant pain all the time. I am curious, do you get any of the anabolic benefits of deca on a low dose of 100-200 mgs a week? Will you have the sides such as the heavy bloat and deca dick on a 100-200 mgs a week dose?

Very good questions spunky! I have bad left shoulder pain when lifting that has come back in the last couple years from going to the gym. I think It's an old injury but I was considering a low dose of HGH to fix it. Is that wrong?

 

[Megatron28]

Ever since Deca was mentioned I have been doing a lot of reading up on it and I think it could be a great addition to my treatment, I am so so tired of being in constant pain all the time. I am curious, do you get any of the anabolic benefits of deca on a low dose of 100-200 mgs a week? Will you have the sides such as the heavy bloat and deca dick on a 100-200 mgs a week dose?

Search pubmed and you will find studies showing that 200mg/week added decent muscle mass in men. But note that deca does not increase testosterone levels.

You shouldn't get bloat because deca aromatizes MUCH less testosterone.

If you manage your estradiol and prolactin -- with emphasis on estradiol -- you won't get deca dick.

 

[Spunkey71]

Search pubmed and you will find studies showing that 200mg/week added decent muscle mass in men. But note that deca does not increase testosterone levels.

You shouldn't get bloat because deca aromatizes MUCH less testosterone.

If you manage your estradiol and prolactin -- with emphasis on estradiol -- you won't get deca dick.

Thanks Megatron, I will ask my doctor about this on Monday, not sure he will be willing to prescribe or not. If he isn't then I will go and see my GP, he is a straight shooter and listens. I am curious, is prolactin checked with a normal testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) blood test or does it need to be requested? What measures can one take to keep it in check?

Thanks

 

[SilverBackGorilla]

My testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol is as follows...
200mg test cyp weekly (Inject 100mg Monday morning and Thursday morning)
500iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) weekly (Inject 250iu Wednesday morning and Saturday morning)
1.5mg Anastrozole weekly (.75mg Monday night and Thursday night)
1mg (3iu) Sermorelin every night. Waste of time and money from what I read.
Total test 1219 range 250-1100
Free test 397.7 range 46-224
Bioavailable test 817.9 range 110-575
SHBG 12 range 10-50
TSH was high, just had my nuclear thyroid scan done today along with an ultrasound, find out next Friday.

 

[Megatron28]

Thanks Megatron, I will ask my doctor about this on Monday, not sure he will be willing to prescribe or not. If he isn't then I will go and see my GP, he is a straight shooter and listens. I am curious, is prolactin checked with a normal testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) blood test or does it need to be requested? What measures can one take to keep it in check?

Thanks

It is normally checked when one is first diagnosed with secondary hypogonadism. If normal then, it is typically not rechecked.

First line of defense for keeping the side effects of deca at bay is controlling estradiol. But cabergoline or pramipexole keep prolactin in check.

With a low dose of deca though, there is a very good chance you won't have prolactin problems. But first sign there may be an issue is poor erections or inability to hold a strong erection.

You would not want to add deca if you don't have your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol dialed in with your estradiol fully controlled.

 

[Megatron28]

My testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol is as follows...
200mg test cyp weekly (Inject 100mg Monday morning and Thursday morning)
500iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) weekly (Inject 250iu Wednesday morning and Saturday morning)
1.5mg Anastrozole weekly (.75mg Monday night and Thursday night)
1mg (3iu) Sermorelin every night. Waste of time and money from what I read.
Total test 1219 range 250-1100
Free test 397.7 range 46-224
Bioavailable test 817.9 range 110-575
SHBG 12 range 10-50
TSH was high, just had my nuclear thyroid scan done today along with an ultrasound, find out next Friday.

Good luck with your thyroid.

 

[SilverBackGorilla]

Good luck with your thyroid.

Thank you Mega. Nurse that took the uptake pics today told me she didn't see anything out of the ordinary so that eased my mind a bit. Gonna ask the doc next Friday about that Deca and if I should lower my test a hair. He was unphased when I asked him last week, lol. He's a piece of work that's for sure!!

Gotta love your doc when you look at his hands and he just tore the calouses clean off like blisters doing a 560# dead lift.

 

[71Avido]

You guys have amazing doctors.

 

[DreDay187]

You guys have amazing doctors.

Bc we live far away from your doctors lol

 

[71Avido]

Bc we live far away from your doctors lol

So do I.
Over 50 miles away

 

[DreDay187]

So do I.
Over 50 miles away

Now you know 50miles isn't far enough! That from the new house or old?