What's a good dose of Test Prop?

[Dlove]

It's my 4th cycle. 29 yrs. old training consinstintly for 3 yrs., on and off before that. 1st cycle D-bol only=Joke! 2nd Drol 50mg's 5 week's test enanthate 500mg's 12 week's. 3rd d-bol 30mg's 5 week's test enanthate 500mg's 14 week's.

Im ready for EOD injects. I also want a less water retentioned test. Do you think test prop at say 400 mg's for 8 week's will yeild some gains, assuming diet and sleep and training is in order?

Thanx

 

[omnione29]

from my understanding prop, en, cyp all retain water at a high level.

 

[Dlove]

from my understanding prop, en, cyp all retain water at a high level.

The short acting esters like prop don't make you retain water like long-acting enanthate or cyp.

 

[Vegas]

The short acting esters like prop don't make you retain water like long-acting enanthate or cyp.

In some cases, but in others not. It depends on how you react to the ester. The sure-fire way to combat bloat/water retention for most is to utilize an aromatase inhibitor throughout your cycle if needed.

 

[steez]

im on a 400mg a week tesp prop cycle and YES im retaining a little water...not a big deal though

 

[drk_diggler]

In some cases, but in others not. It depends on how you react to the ester. The sure-fire way to combat bloat/water retention for most is to utilize an aromatase inhibitor throughout your cycle if needed.

ie.liquidex/armidex or femera

 

[Stone]

I agree it is MUCH more important to utilize an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if you want to keep bloat off, rather than trying to do that with a different ester of test. I believe the TP will help slightly simply because at any given time you have less bound test in your system that could help eliminate some of the water retention - but again the difference is minimal.

 

[Dlove]

So 400mg's for 8 week's should be alright? I was thinking more like 600mg's?

 

[Vegas]

Whatever you feel comfortable with and want to run. From the cycle history you outlined, 600mgs per week would not be out of the question.

 

[biggest loser fat loss]

I 've been running 750 sust a week. I'm wrapping up with Test prop the last 4 weeks
(weeks 16-20). I figured I'd run 150 mgs EOD. That way I can start my post cycle therapy (pct) almost immediately, after last inject. (3 days)

 

[TrojanMan60563]

When I ran prop it was 150mg EOD and it worked well...8 weeks is plenty of time to gain quality muscle on prop.

 

[Trucker111]

I ran it @ 125mg EOD.. That comes out to 437.5mgs per week. Now, I'm not very good w/ the conversions, but somebody said when compared (on scale) to enanthate, that it would be somewhere around 550mg/wk, if my memory serves me correctly.

This has something to do with % of ester weight, etc. Hopefully somebody will speak up w/ some knowledge on this.

 

[zomzom]

If you add proviron 25-50mg Ed it will keep the bloat away and will improve ur overall gain.

 

[Stone]

Looks about correct, trucker. I don' want to do the exact math though!

 

[Trucker111]

Looks about correct, trucker. I don' want to do the exact math though!

I have it in one of my old posts.. I'll look it up for ya in a little while. Exam now...

 

[jpflex66]

Geez i did 100mgs prop and my ass hurt so bad i had problem sitting

 

[Trucker111]

Found it!

Prop/enan conversion ratios..
.....by none other than mranak.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1033277&postcount=3

 

[jarbulldog]

i would go 100 ed or 200 eod

 

[Stone]

75-100 ED is the way to go! If you're not stacking it with anything, then I would go with 100mg/ED.

 

[biggest loser fat loss]

75-100 ED is the way to go! If you're not stacking it with anything, then I would go with 100mg/ED.

Why not he 150mgs EOD? Also I was wondering if I should taper the dosage the last couple of weeks so my body doesnt have such a shock when I stop.
Like going from 700mgs a week for the last 20 weeks, to nothin w/ pct.
It sounds more rationale to taper the test down. Anyone?