User summed it up for you. Severly underdosed, I ran their compounds just to try it. I don't understand why people still continue to want to try them knowing the shitty feedback they have. There are many ugl's with great rep with similar prices, as I said in an earlier Biogen thread this week, I have quite a bit of test left over that i'd rather throw away than give to my friends. I'll put it this way, I had to run 700mg ot Tren E to get decent results as anything under was worthless. I used Tren Ace as a kick start and that was a little better, but once I stopped, the tren E barely held it's own.