Who here has ever been totally shut down and what did you do/results?

[NativeTX]

After taking more than my normal amount of Test and Deca, I am shut down. The past cycle I took 300mg of each per week. The cycle before that was just 200mg of cypionate/wk. I doubled that for a 12 week cycle. I had already decided to do less on my next cycle, because my gains were not any better than in my previous 2 cycles. (Note: I had done plenty of cylces 20 years prior)...so not my first go around. Also note**** for those considering a cycle, more than 200-300mg/wk is not necessary.

I have my strength which is the same and see no difference in muscle mass or weight...lost about 2 lbs, but that is probably due to stress. Libido and sex were above average for my age and actually above average for a 25 yr old (took care of myself everyday unless a chic was taking care of it for me) until this last cycle. I did my normal PCT (which I know you will all disagree with, but it's worked 10 times before and 2X recently). I usually start 500mg/wk of HCG 2 weeks after my last shot along 20mg/ED of Nolvadex to prevent gyno. This got me going temporarily.

I had already planned to see a doc prior to having these probs at the end of my cycle. At the time, I just had started a difference in my ability to get an erection. It happened, but it took work. It was much easier with a chic, but, obviously, I was now self conscious. My bloodwork put my T levels at 144. After speaking with my doc who prescribes HRT to those who need it, I was told that I was Steriodoly netuering myself with the amount of deca I was taking.

I was put on HCG 2500mg EOD and clomid 50mg 2X a day for the first week and HCG (same) and Clomid 25mg 2X a day. I am to have bloodwork done after that.

Let you know what the results are....hope it works, if not I am on legal gear for the rest of my life....not exactly what I wanted. (Do NOT understand it...it's not close to what a PRO would do)

I have heard of others being shut down for over 6 months that recovered.

Please let me know, if you have gone through this and what your results were, and, from others, what your observations are.

 

[swoleskunk]

damn bro .. its called deca dick for a reason . i always tell bros test is best no need for nothn else . i hope u get back to normal

 

[halfwit]

Out of curiosity, did you have your levels checked prior to your cycle? I only ask since 200mg/wk is what most of us on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) use to achieve NORMAL test levels, not cycle levels. If you were low to begin with, that could explain why you see benefit from such a low dose of AAS. If you had normal levels, that just seems like a waste to suppress yourself with such a small amount of test in conjunction with deca - which is really suppressive all in itself.

I want to comment on your doctor's protocol since using HCG (it's not measured in milligrams, it's IU's) along with clomid to restore natural function seems really wrong to me, but I am not nearly knowledgeable on those to put up any sort of advice. The only thing I can say about that is I would keep an eye on your estrogen levels - clomid does nothing to reduce them, it just prevents the sides.

My .02c

 

[NativeTX]

I was on 600mg of TestE and 600mg of Deca per week. That's not testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) usage. My mistake on the MG for HCG. I meant IUs

 

[cross88]

I was on 600mg of TestE and 600mg of Deca per week. That's not testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) usage. My mistake on the MG for HCG. I meant IUs

Were you using caber/prami?

 

[hardtarget]

Cabergoline for on cycle prolactin issues...AND a good post cycle therapy (pct) to fix you right up...we have all been there and done that.

 

[Millertime]

(Note: I had done plenty of cylces 20 years prior)...so not my first go around. Also note**** for those considering a cycle, more than 200-300mg/wk is not necessary.

Nothing has changed in the 20 years 200-300mg/week is not a cycle. Why are you asking advice yet giving advice about what you think is an appropriate cycle? Yes anytime you inject any amount of test youll shut your system down. Deca shuts you down much harder than anything. If it has been 20 years since youve cycled your possibly at the age where you need hrt to keep yourself balanced. These doses are between 100/200mg per week. So your previous amount is damn near a maintenance dose. Its ok to want to take as little as you can to try and get the best results but dont waste your time. Either cycle with over 500mg or hrt with under 200mg.