Why is 12 weeks the typical time to run Test E?
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Old Duffer
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No expert here, but from what I've read...
1) the longer you keep your natty system shut down the higher risk that it won't restart
2) your gains will plateau at some point
3) risky to keep elevated hematocrit and blood pressure going for longer periods
And the one that makes most sense to me is
4) if time off equals time on and you are in for the long haul then it all evens out long term if that makes sense. Over a 5 year period (as example) you get 4 cycles if they are 6 months each but 8 4-month cycles and 11 3-month cycles... at lower risk.
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1) the longer you keep your natty system shut down the higher risk that it won't restart
2) your gains will plateau at some point
3) risky to keep elevated hematocrit and blood pressure going for longer periods
And the one that makes most sense to me is
4) if time off equals time on and you are in for the long haul then it all evens out long term if that makes sense. Over a 5 year period (as example) you get 4 cycles if they are 6 months each but 8 4-month cycles and 11 3-month cycles... at lower risk.
I think I did that right
Wow I totally couldn't have put these together. Thanks for the awesome response!
Xander24
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I'm assuming you have never run a cycle before. I hope so at least, because this is an answer you should have sought out before you cycled in case you have. The main reason being that 12 weeks is all a newbie wants to be suppressed for. Just because a newbie has a better ability to recover, all things being equal, than a vet (believe me, I have seen freak vets who can recover fast) we have sadly learned that the body does in fact hate being suppressed. A good chunk of vets on here are on TRT. Sadly, myself included here, a good portion of those guys are on TRT because they chose to do long cycles, short cycles, and all sorts of cycles in short succession. Hey, I love my TRT, it's awesome. Just means I am responsible for maintaining and monitoring my own vitality. For a brain that thinks, and operates like mine, that's perfect and I wouldn't go back. I can maximise it, but most importantly, monitor my BP, E2, and an array of other things. But a newbie shouldn't be cycling 12 weeks because of the suppression factor. All other points made were relevant too.
You will see vets cycling longer. This is generally because they are running other compounds with their test, compounds that require 16 to 20 weeks to be maximised, but also require test to be a base. These vets monitor their vitals, they get blood work, they manage their blood pressure. They are vets and thye know how to do this in the safest manner possible through others mistakes. Gains on test will in fact plateau after about 12 weeks on a short ester test, and 16 weeks on a long ester test. Why keep shooting 300 - 500mg of test a week if it just keeps you normal? Change your diet, come off and work out hard.
If you're a newbie the best cycle you could do is 8-10 weeks test Prop at 300mg / week. With a proper diet and awesome training, with an hour walk in the AM you'd be a ripped beast in 8 weeks. A shell of your former self. But i don't know your age or stats, so I'm sort of talking up my ass.
Xander24
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TooTuff is most likely correct as too much pinning will turn a Newbie off fast. Fortunately they do make Test E for you soft Cocks!! HAHAHA.
In all seriousness it does in fact seem I am way outnumbered in my preference to the short ester to the long ester. I have no choice but to stick with long ester with my TRT. No probs, but I'd shoot prop if I could EOD, even M, W, F worked great on prop. but when it comes to the real Androgens like Tren, I like to 1. be able to control my blood levels to them minute shooting every day on the hour, and 2. pull the rip cord and bail on that shit if need be. Nothing worse than a bad tren cycle where you are stuck for 1 week and then shit sort of sucks for that half week after. We aren't talking about tren though so I'll shut up....
OP, as TooTuff said, his is most likely correct as someone new to the game would much more prefer two injections per week, one if you are a super pussy, than injecting every day. To me it is just the sweet sting of success though. Gotta earn that shit through a miserable diet of intermittent fasting, working out twice a day, and sticking a needle in your ass and telling yourself how much you love it!! Trust me, think long and hard before jumping in.
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juced_porkchop
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the longer you are on usually results in more shutdown and more recovery needed. i do like 14-16 weeks myself and even for people new to this i rec 14 weeks. but pushing it to 20 weeks is... well pushing it IMO. I dont think 15 is too bad. just make sure you have everything on hand and are using an AI properly and PCT ready to go for when needed (not waiting on an order then something messes up)
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