Winny cycle advice (newbie)

[mongol125]

I am looking to run a winny cycle + clenbuterol to lose a few pounds of fat and maybe stack it with something to gain a little mass, but I need advice. I am about 5'9 165-170 pounds and I have a small gut. I work out a lot and do a lot of cardio, but as I have gotten older I am having trouble losing the gut. I am new to this and really don't want to permanently mess up my test levels. What should I run with the winny in combination with diet and exercise to lose the beer belly and gain a little bit of mass? I'm not really trying to get huge I just want to get back in good shape. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

 

[blakey]

Test you need it as a base of any cycle if you are male

 

[oldmusclemike]

Stats always give us your stats
age
wt
ht
bf%
history
goal for cycle and long term
LOL no one justs gets huge
Winny doesn't cut fat, diet and exercise

 

[tbonexl]

Winny isn't the answer for you. Cut back on the beers and dial in your diet better.

 

[3J]

i agree, diet and training alone should do it..

winny is crap, its one of the few compounds i absolutely do not condone..

and you have to run test.. run winny alone and you shut down your natty test levels.. not good!!

get in the diet section and post up in my free diet advice thread..

or, if youre looking for professional help, email me at 3jdiet@gmail.com to inquire about becoming a client

website: 3J's Nutrition

3J- ology's head sports nutritionist

 

[Roush]

Steroids don't get rid of a beer belly, they don't work that way. they work on androgen receptors (you have none of those in your beer belly). a hypo-caloric diet gets rid of beer bellies

 

[juced_porkchop]

test only cycle for first cycle when ready IMO.
read all the stickies in the aas section, up top.

 

[mongol125]

I'm 25 5'8 and 165 pounds. I don't know by bf but its in the overweight section. I workout 5 days a week but I'm not getting the results i want. What do you think about a prop + winny for the first one?