Winstrol or Tren??? Mid Cycle crisis

kmatheis

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first..

i am 25 6'4 235 lbs and have been on a test enan and tren cycle for about 9 weeks. this is my first time using test and tren. i started (at 224lbs) by taking test 250mg every 5 days...and then started taking tren 50mg every day after 7 weeks. i was really expecting to gain more weight than i have, but now that i am already in the middle of the cycle..i have questions about what i should do now. i have been taking hcg - 250-500iu - every five days or so and 20mg of nolva every day. no real sides yet..no acne..no aggrsssion...no night sweats...balls normal...sex drive is way up (bonus)

i am almost done with my 2nd bottle of test enan...and i was originally gonna end the cycle with winstrol...but i am wondering if i should just up the tren instead. maybe 100mg every day. because i really was looking for more size and definition...and i just am not getting it. or should i go with the winstrol? what rips you up more, Winstrol (winny) or tren? i used Winstrol (winny) once before by itself (painful shit...ouch!!) and really liked the ripped look it gave me...was kinda expecting the same or more from tren.

or i could possible start another bottle of test enan...but is it safe to do take that much test for that long of a time?

so i either

-end the test, double the tren and no winstrol
-finish the test, finish the tren, and start winstrol
-keep the test going (another bottle) and stay on the same amount of tren and then use winstrol
-keep the test going (another bottle) and double the amount of tren and no winstrol.

what do you guys think is gonna work best for me? i just thought i was gonna get leaner and gain more weight.
 
I would up the tren. No drug will make you leaner to a great extent though, that's all diet. Gaining weight while at the same time getting leaner is a lofty goal, especially considering your proposed timeframe. Lengthening your cycle is probably the way to go. And what is your diet like right now? That is the biggie.
 
Diet is the key....

Cutting and bulking at the same time is nearly impossible.

If you are losing fat, putting on a lot of size wont happen.

Up your doses and see whats what...increase your protien intake too!
 
the only i ever added any size and cut at the same time was when i hit early morning cardio and used novalog in the pm w/ a very strict diet. i wouldnt worry about gaining anymore now, just stick w/ your diet and tren and you will look bigger as you loose more fat.
 
so up tren...and no winny?

so i should up the tren and no Winstrol (winny)? should i also continue the test? is it safe to run test enan for 15 weeks?
 
Yes you need test with tren otherwise your your messed up... So I've been told by the big bros here. Cause I'm running test e tren and anavar right now but sadly will run out soon after my pct.
 
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