Would Like To Use My Weiner Off Cycle

[Lifterdude]

I just got done reading a thread about I think Needsize, or maybe another mod, talking about running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout the cycle cause of the length of his cycle and then continuing it through his post cycle therapy (pct). He also talked about not getting fatigue, depression, and being able to get it up.

I'm running about a 16 week cycle, half deca Sustanon (sust) and other half test e. Will I see these kinds of effects even while running my post cycle therapy (pct) with clomid and Nolv? I don't really care about the fatigue and crap, just my dink working. My dick already is running inefficiently because of the deca (which I'll be off soon when I switch to straight test e @ 500mg x2 a week). I'm looking forward to my dick running full power after this cycle is over so that kind of disappointed me. Is there anything store bought (GNC, Vitamin Shoppe) that I'd be able to take instead of buyin Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (min order when I buy)?

 

[Lifterdude]

I guess no one else here has a hotdog like I do.... hmm

 

[blackjack]

use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout the cycle and stop a week before the end of the cycle. theres nothing OTC that does what Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) does. and deca is difficult to recover from to begin with. what does your cycle look like? it seems a bit strange to use deca, then TE. would have been better off using them together and leave out the sustanon.

 

[Lifterdude]

I was originally going to run just Sustanon (sust) and deca but decided instead of doing two cycles without enough time off in between to recover just extended this one with straight test e for six weeks.

1 - 1 cc Sustanon (sust) 250 and deca 300
2 - 1 cc Sustanon (sust) 250 and deca 300
3 - 1 cc Sustanon (sust) 250 and deca 300
4 - 2 cc Sustanon (sust) and 1 cc deca 300
5 - 2 cc Sustanon (sust) and 1 cc deca 300
6 - 2 cc Sustanon (sust) and 1 cc deca 300
7 - 2 cc Sustanon (sust) and 1 cc deca 300


8 - 2 cc Sustanon (sust) and 1 cc deca 300
9 - 2 cc Sustanon (sust) and 1 cc deca 300
10 - 500 mg of test e x2 a week
11 - 500 mg of test e x2 a week
12 - 500 mg of test e x2 a week
13 - 500 mg of test e x2 a week
14 - 500 mg of test e x2 a week
15 - 500 mg of test e x2 a week


Will follow up thereafter with post cycle therapy (pct) with Nolv and Clomid. Or possibly just Clomid if I have to use the Nolv for some gyno at any point.

 

[blackjack]

why are you tapering up the sus? the 1st 3 weeks will be wasted since its roughly 50% short esters. (it should be used EOD). take the sus from weeks 8-9 and add it to wks 1-3. this will give you 8 wks @500mg. I would save the enanthate for a second cycle later on. going 16 weeks straight you will definitely need HCG.

 

[Lifterdude]

I already have the Test e on the way, and ordered it because I'll be out of Sustanon (sust) and deca at those times. How much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) should I use and when? Lemme know when u can and I'll look into possibly adding it in

 

[Slick Arrado]

I already have the Test e on the way, and ordered it because I'll be out of Sustanon (sust) and deca at those times. How much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) should I use and when? Lemme know when u can and I'll look into possibly adding it in

Not trying to dog you, but you should have all your supplies before you start your cycle. post cycle therapy (pct) included.

 

[blackjack]

a common practice is 250-500 iu every 3 0r 4 days. from the beginning.

 

[Pheedno]

No need to taper your gear. As far as Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) goes, 500iu's E4D or 500ius every Mon/Tues throughout the cycle are the best protocols. Run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) right up to PCT

For PCT- .25mg L-dex/100mg Clomid/20mg Nolva all for 30 days.

Sexual function(or disfunction) comes down to free test. The above plan of action will be the best protocol to keep SHBG down and recovering F.test quickly

 

[Pheedno]

Not trying to dog you, but you should have all your supplies before you start your cycle. post cycle therapy (pct) included.

I'd have to agree. You never know when a kink in the plan will develope

 

[Starkraven]

No need to taper your gear. As far as Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) goes, 500iu's E4D or 500ius every Mon/Tues throughout the cycle are the best protocols. Run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) right up to PCT

For PCT- .25mg L-dex/100mg Clomid/20mg Nolva all for 30 days.

Sexual function(or disfunction) comes down to free test. The above plan of action will be the best protocol to keep SHBG down and recovering F.test quickly

what causes SHBG to go up? i mean im planning to get back on 250mg test/week but i want to make sure my test is freed up. do i have to use proviron or Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle?

 

[blackjack]

no need to get overcomplicated here. worrying about stuff like SHBG and free test is pointless unless youre going to do blood tests on yourself and monitor the levels every day. ever heard of the term K.I.S.S its keep it simple stupid.
just use test at 500mg / wk avg. 10wks Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) E3D or E4D
and have post cycle therapy (pct) ready two weeks after the test ends. Nolvadex and Clomid. just KISS and have fun with the cycle. the little details will just make your head spin. especially for an easy cycle like this.

 

[Starkraven]

no need to get overcomplicated here. worrying about stuff like SHBG and free test is pointless unless youre going to do blood tests on yourself and monitor the levels every day. ever heard of the term K.I.S.S its keep it simple stupid.
just use test at 500mg / wk avg. 10wks Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) E3D or E4D
and have post cycle therapy (pct) ready two weeks after the test ends. Nolvadex and Clomid. just KISS and have fun with the cycle. the little details will just make your head spin. especially for an easy cycle like this.

ive done many cycles but i know free test is really important. i know taking test increases free test but i thought it would be important to worry about lowering SHBG to maximize the amount of test available in my body. dont you think that is important? i keep my cycles pretty simple. test only lol.

 

[Frankie xq]

some may disagree with this, especially during PCT, but proviron will make junior happy and alive.