wuts the longest tbol should be run????

diesel6977 said:
gonna be stacking it with
week 1-15 eq
week 1-14 test e
tbol?????????

v
1 test e +eq Tbol
2 test e +eq Tbol
3 test e +eq Tbol HCG 500iu
4 test e +eq Tbol HCG 500iu
5 test e +eq Tbol HCG 500iu
6 test e +eq Tbol
7 test e +eq
8 test e +eq HCG 500iu
9 test e +eq HCG 500iu
10 test e +eq HCG 500iu
11 test e +eq
12 test e +eq
13 test e +eq Tbol HCG 500iu
14 test e +eq Tbol HCG 500iu
15 test e Tbol HCG 500iu
Tbol
Tbol
START PCT


here u bridge at the end of the cycle with short acting oral while waiting for the long esters to leave the system.

You wanna run EQ 1 week shorter than Test E since EQ takes about 18-21 days to fully leave your system, while Test E leaves in about 12-16 days.

The Tbol at the end of the cycle will help u maintain Strenght and gains while waiting for the longer esters to leave the body.

This is how I would do the cycle + HCG once a week 500iu after week 2 until week 15.
 
diesel6977 said:
wut do u think i should run the tbol at 40 or 50 mg a day

Personally I'd run Dbol 20-25mg ED but well I respond really well to Dbol.

do 50-60mg Tbol ED

BTW this isn't yer first cycle rite?
 
i was origonaly gonan go with dbol but it is to harsh on the hair so i decide to go with tbol
and no its no my first it will be my third
i will be doing armidex through out cycle and planed on doing the hcg from liek week 3 threw the cycle. Y would u skip a few weeks wth out hcg
 
Ye ok, the cycle I made is also a cycle I would run so IMO its good to go, make sure u got all the goodies before u start and yer good to go.

About HCG you can run the HCG thru the whole cycle every week it is propably better actually than having some breaks, just make sure to step off the HCG 2 weeks before post cycle therapy (pct) since it surpresses your bodys signalsystem to make the balls produce sperm.
 
realy??? well im gonan be taking nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) now i want to run somthign with it should i run armidex all the way trough post cycle therapy (pct) also???
and i was also thinking of this but unsure if i stop the hcg like 3 weeks before post cycle therapy (pct) can i start it up again as a pct??????
 
Hey Fellas, I'm new to the forum and to the darkside of things. I've been lifting for 10 years, currently 26yr old 5'11'' 190lbs about 13% bf. I've been at a plateau for a few years just maintaining the same weight maybe fluctuating 5 to 10lbs never dropping below 185lbs. I've recently decided to see how far my body can go with a little assistance from AAS. One of my good friends and training partners, which is pretty familiar with AAS is going to join me for the ride. Considering its my 1st cycle ever I was going to try Test 400 and anavar cycle. But after speaking to a pretty reliable source suggested that we should stack Test - E and Tbol instead then cut with anavar afterwards. After a a few months of reading and researching the side effects and benefits or both stacks we've decided to go with the Test-E and Tbol stack. My problem is that this source also informed me that a 12 week cycle of each at 250mg 2xweek of Test-E and 50mg ED of the tbol will be idea, after reading many forums and books I'm seeing alot of talk on orals that they shouldnt be ran for any longer than 8 weeks. I'd love to get some insight as to whats the correct dosing for a guy of my size stacking both these. I also should add that I would like to be a 215lbs and 5 to 8% bf after my post cycle therapy (pct) (Nolvadex) which also I'd like to have some info on this which the source told me take it at 50mg a day for 2 weeks, which doesn't jive with what I've been reading. My training regiment is pretty strenuous, would like to know how much cardio I should be doing and how many cals, protein , fats and carbs which out too much bloat. Any help would be much appreciated thanks guys!!
 
^^^^ Make your own thread instead of bumping a relic. Some problems here as well.

First off...you should do test ONLY as a first cycle so you see how your body responds and you will know where your sides are coming from. And there is no way you're going to be at 215 lbs at 5-8% from where you're starting. AAS isn't going to give you size and cut your BF......especially with test or tbol (tren maybe). Tbol would be a definite no for 12 weeks.....6 weeks tops. Figure out the rest with your diet after you digest some of this information and read a bit more.
 
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