It took me awhile to concider using products such as these after hearing mixed reveiws of side effects i have heard good and bad some say the stuff is not worth the money and others swear by the gains they have made i guess the million dollar question is who do you really concider listening to. So i decided to just blow off all the feed back on the use of such products and try a cycle my self to see the real deal. I beleive anything taken as directed and not abused will give proper results. And trying to remember that every human body will respond diffrently. Proper food consumtion while using these products and great workouts with large amounts of water should help . Again if not abused and cycled properly and used as short term gains it should be safe i beleive this is the key. Iam not asking for a agree or disagree iam just stating what i beleive is true. If you wish to respond on this new thread no problem. Oh by the way i decided to try 1-TU. Tear. It. Up. Mad Dawg!!