12 or 16 weeks, when to stop?

[Renagade2287]

Im currently about to begin my 10th week of my cycle (Feb.1st)

My cycle is wk 1-4 / 40mg dbol/ed
wk 1-12? or 15? 500mg Test E/wk
wk 5 started HcG at 1000iu/wk
Im going to stop the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 1 week before I start Pct.

Pct - Clomid 100mg day 1-15
50mg day 15-30

Im wondering if stretching it out (15 weeks instead of 12) is going to do more harm then good? What would you all recommend?

 

[Massive123]

IMO end it. As good as you feel you probly won't see any phyiscal changes in that time but you will shut yourself down further. I've realized the best thing you can do is set a goal (weight gains, strength...) and once it's reached end the cycle. Overdoing it does more harm than good & means a longer wait till the next cycle.

 

[Renagade2287]

so just stop at 12? How does the Pct. look?

 

[Massive123]

Yes. 50/50/50/50 is fine. If you want do 100mg the first 2-3 days but it's not necessary IMO

 

[Renagade2287]

ill just do 100mg for the first 15 days then 50mg for the remaining 15 days just to be sure

 

[Massive123]

What gains has this cycle brought you?

 

[Renagade2287]

deff. alot of strength and power; about 4 lbs of lean mass ( im on a clean diet) and alot of good muscular density. (im preparing for my first show in late Oct. of this year)

 

[Massive123]

I used to do 100mg for the first week but last cycle the emotional sides
from clomid bitch slapped me badly. Never again for me. 50/50/50/50 + nolva for me

 

[scotimusprime]

4 lbs?

 

[Massive123]

Was thinking the same thing...too clean of a diet is likely the cause.... I mean to each his own but to use hormones to only put on 4lbs is kinda senseless to me regardless of strength gains...especially since a lot of strength gains go byebye after the cycles over. I'm sure if he's competing he must know a good amount but still...kinda surprising...

 

[scotimusprime]

ya def each to his own. im not judging but dang i have 4 lb shits somedays lol.

hows miami doing? was there for the first time last month and loved it.

not trying to hijack the thread but its fuking late,no one is on and im bored at work lol

 

[Renagade2287]

so can anyone else give their imput on this. im still debating doing the 15 weeks instead of 12.

 

[bobbyroket]

the longer you run test the better. i ran 12 weeks with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) took a week off and started again as long as you clean your recepters you can run a back to back cycle. GO BIG OR GO HOME

 

[drewbolic]

the longer you run test the better. i ran 12 weeks with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) took a week off and started again as long as you clean your recepters you can run a back to back cycle. GO BIG OR GO HOME

What about PCT?
Teste atrophy?Even with the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) running back to back cycles is got to be harmful, no?

 

[Massive123]

the longer you run test the better. i ran 12 weeks with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) took a week off and started again as long as you clean your recepters you can run a back to back cycle. GO BIG OR GO HOME

A) The longer the better? Wrong
B) The receptor thing is a myth
C) Terrible advice

 

[Renagade2287]

I agree there is no fucking way on Gods green earth i would run back to back cycles. Im looking for more info on my topic such as "stop at 12 or keep going till 15 or even 16 weeks" and im looking for good info to back up the response given. Hopefully the Moderators and veterans of the game can step in and give me some advice

 

[drewbolic]

I not a vet and def not a mod.
But, testosterone enanthate at 500mg pw will peak as far as gains aout wk 8 and slowly decline ard rise again to peak levels at wk 20.
So IMO between 12 and 15 weeks,its better to stop at 12.You will have reached already max potential and another 3 wks will just make it longer road to HPTA recovery.
Hope this helps you on your decision.

 

[Massive123]

^^^ x2

I speak from 1st hand experience dude. Hopefully for your sake someone else you wanna believe chimes in here

 

[Mcdunn]

I agree as well, stop at 12.

 

[workoutfreak078]

I not a vet and def not a mod.
But, testosterone enanthate at 500mg pw will peak as far as gains aout wk 8 and slowly decline ard rise again to peak levels at wk 20.
So IMO between 12 and 15 weeks,its better to stop at 12.You will have reached already max potential and another 3 wks will just make it longer road to HPTA recovery.
Hope this helps you on your decision.

Where did you hear this? I don't know about you, but I only do 16 week cycles and I get gains the whole way. I also recover easily and keep all of my gains without any side effects or problems. I'm not saying this goes for everybody, but saying gains stop at week 8 is crazy. Who knows, you could be right, but I never met anyone who stopped gaining after only 8 weeks.