16 Week Bulk

[GearTripper]

16 Week Bulk (Revised)

1-5: 40mg/ED Dbol
1-16: 600mg/wk Test E (QV 250/200)
1-15: 400mg/wk EQ (QV 200)
8-16: 150mg/wk Winstrol (winny) Depot 50mg/EOD (M-W-F-Su-T-TH-Sa-M)
->18: TRT


Ldex - .5mg/ED
Nolva - 40mg/ED (if/when needed)

 

[drh8784]

you can cut it all together and keep it on hand if needed i believe PM stoncold his info. is always perfect..

 

[StoneColdNTO]

That is an awefully long time to run Winstrol (winny) ...16 weeks...maybe just do it in the last half of the cycle......and I would also recommend doing it at least EOD. Your blood hormone levels are going to drop off too much over the weekend the way you have it planned.

Now if you are NOT prone to gyno, why are you running the Nolva in the first place ? It might help stabalize your lipid profiles a bit, but other than that, it's not gonna do much for you, I would just hold off and only use it if needed.

The other change I might make would be to revamp the ending so you have little down time before starting post cycle therapy (pct). Maybe stop the EQ at the end of week 13, and switch from Test enanthate to Test prop for week 15 & 16 @ 100 mg EOD.

 

[bronco944]

dont run the Winstrol (winny) for 16 weeks like that. save it for the end of the cycle and take 50 mg's ed, or 100 mg's eod. so do teh Winstrol (winny) like weeks 14-18 or so. that way when you come off the Winstrol (winny) you can startt clomid right away.

 

[fatchops]

16 weeks of Winstrol (winny) would be pretty harsh but what thell do I know .

I run the Winstrol (winny) for 8 weeks bro. Besides that everything looks good

 

[GearTripper]

bump for revision review and weekenders...

StoneColdNTO, i wasn't planning on post cycle therapy (pct) but i was just thinking that i have tons of clomid and HCG on hand... why not do a post cycle therapy (pct) and then jump back into my TRT... your thoughts?

 

[DADAWG]

bump for revision review and weekenders...

StoneColdNTO, i wasn't planning on post cycle therapy (pct) but i was just thinking that i have tons of clomid and HCG on hand... why not do a post cycle therapy (pct) and then jump back into my TRT... your thoughts?

if your nuts shrink then hcg to plump them up is fine but there is no need to run post cycle therapy (pct) / clomid just go right back on trt

 

[StoneColdNTO]

if your nuts shrink then hcg to plump them up is fine but there is no need to run post cycle therapy (pct) / clomid just go right back on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT)

Yep......that's all I do as well...

 

[DADAWG]

Yep......that's all I do as well...

you know we would save time if when we post we say thats what STONECOLDNTO and DADAWG think

 

[rpwhit777]

It seems as if your right, Dadawg.........LOL

 

[GearTripper]

NTO & Dawg- what about my revised Winstrol (winny) plan.. looking good? i just wanna make sure i do this right.

this would be my first time using Winstrol (winny) and i'm having a hard time figuring out which days to shoot as i know it has a short half-life. i try to plan everything on a 7-day week - but perhaps i should just throw that idea out and focus on a straight EOD routine? M-W-F-S-T-TH-S-M, sound good there?

 

[DADAWG]

NTO & Dawg- what about my revised Winstrol (winny) plan.. looking good? i just wanna make sure i do this right.

this would be my first time using Winstrol (winny) and i'm having a hard time figuring out which days to shoot as i know it has a short half-life. i try to plan everything on a 7-day week - but perhaps i should just throw that idea out and focus on a straight EOD routine? M-W-F-S-T-TH-S-M, sound good there?

you will get better results running the winnie eod but if you just absolutely dont want to shoot that often then m/w/f would still produce results , run the winnie weeks 11-19 so that the winnie and eq will clear your system at the same time and extend the test 1 week after the eq , this will have cycle levels of as clearing the system at the same time , you could resume testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at week 19

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I just had to change it up a little bit from what DADAWG said, I'm starting to get a complex....woof, woof !!

1-5: 40mg/ED Dbol
1-16: 600mg/wk Test E (QV 250/200)
1-15: 400mg/wk EQ (QV 200)
12-18: 50mg Winstrol (winny) Depot EOD

If it was me doing this, I would start up with my regular dose of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) in week 18, your test levels may still be higher than normal, but it's not gonna hurt anything, think of it as a little bit of a taper off......LOL !!

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Oh yeah.....as far as your planning for a 7 day week goes, just log it all out on a calander, that's what us old guys with bad memories do......right DADAWG !!....

 

[DADAWG]

I just had to change it up a little bit from what DADAWG said, I'm starting to get a complex....woof, woof !!

1-5: 40mg/ED Dbol
1-16: 600mg/wk Test E (QV 250/200)
1-15: 400mg/wk EQ (QV 200)
12-18: 50mg Winstrol (winny) Depot EOD

If it was me doing this, I would start up with my regular dose of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) in week 18, your test levels may still be higher than normal, but it's not gonna hurt anything, think of it as a little bit of a taper off......LOL !!

what happened did you get tired of being right all the time

 

[GearTripper]

I just had to change it up a little bit from what DADAWG said, I'm starting to get a complex....woof, woof !!

1-5: 40mg/ED Dbol
1-16: 600mg/wk Test E (QV 250/200)
1-15: 400mg/wk EQ (QV 200)
12-18: 50mg Winstrol (winny) Depot EOD

If it was me doing this, I would start up with my regular dose of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) in week 18, your test levels may still be higher than normal, but it's not gonna hurt anything, think of it as a little bit of a taper off......LOL !!

i can see why to end the EQ early, but i thought it last for two weeks, or am i wrong? isn't the goal to have everything "clear" around the same time? also, why run the Winstrol (winny) for the two extra weeks.. strictly to taper until testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) or are you thinking it might compliment the EQ left in my system?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

i can see why to end the EQ early, but i thought it last for two weeks, or am i wrong? isn't the goal to have everything "clear" around the same time? also, why run the Winstrol (winny) for the two extra weeks.. strictly to taper until testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) or are you thinking it might compliment the EQ left in my system?

OK.....EQ will take 3 weeks to clear enough to start post cycle therapy (pct) and "Yes", the goal is for evrything to clear at the same time, but....the more I think of this, it doesn't really matter when anything we take clears if we are resuming testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), simply for the fact that with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), in essence we are not coming off at all. Man...... that was one long sentence, hope it makes sense. DADAWG - comments ??

 

[GearTripper]

but....the more I think of this, it doesn't really matter when anything we take clears if we are resuming testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), simply for the fact that with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), in essence we are not coming off at all. Man...... that was one long sentence, hope it makes sense. DADAWG - comments ??

i see where you're going... it's hard to think in terms of "always on" with TRT... so if that's the case, why not run the EQ the full 16?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

i see where you're going... it's hard to think in terms of "always on" with TRT... so if that's the case, why not run the EQ the full 16?

Sure....that's where I was going, and you can run the Winstrol (winny) earlier too, no need to run it 3 weeks past the EQ, although that still might not be a bad idea.

 

[DADAWG]

Sure....that's where I was going, and you can run the Winstrol (winny) earlier too, no need to run it 3 weeks past the EQ, although that still might not be a bad idea.

either way should work , i still like the idea of clearing everything out about the same time som im either on cycle or on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) , mostly because i turn everything up a notch while on . not only protein/calories but also training due to the enhanced recovery from steroids . but thats just how i do it and there is more than 1 way to skin a cat [ sorry mr db ]