19 year old starting test e tomorrow

Pingmass

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Hey guys,
ive been lifting for 3 years 2.5 naturally over the past few months i have been playing with pro hormones nothing serious, but i am now wanting to take my performance to a next level by starting injectables, as of now ive used tbol as a kickstarter which i have been using for about 3 weeks and i am injecting 500mg of test e tomorrow followed along by a HCG injection heres my cycles please advice/ critique (including hcg)

stats 190lbs 6"1 10%bf


WEEK 1 500MG
WEEK 2 500 MG
WEEK 3 500MG
WEEK 4 500MG + CLEN T3 + YOHOMBINE im doing a short cut as i am planning to do a photoshoot in this period...
WEEK 5 500MG + CLEN T3 YOHIMBINE
WEEK 6 500MG + CLEN T3 YOHIMBINE
WEEK 7 500MG + CLEN T3 YOHIMBINE
WEEK 8 500MG
WEEK 9 500MG
WEEK 10 500MG
WEEK 11 500MG
WEEK 12 500MG
WEEK 13 WINNY @ 50MG
WEEK 14 WINNY @50MG
WEEK 15 WINNY @ 50MG
WEEK 16 WINNY @ 50MG

need advice on the pct but i have armidex/clomid and nolva in my house just unsure on the dosage for this specific cycle.

-Thanks
 
If you decide to do this now you will shut down your natural test production and possibly damage a few other things along the way the safe and smart thing to do is wait till about 25 when there is much less of a chance of permanent damage cheers buddy and good luck to you
 
Im fully aware of whats going to happen this decision has been on my mind for months im doing it at my own risk but thanks for the heads up.
 
Agreed that test take four weeks to kick in. But you are not waiting for test to kick in since you have not started test e

You run both on the same day. Week 1-4 oral to kick start week 1-12 test
 
dosage for pct is the same with every cycle... search and you will find.... I wouldn't mind advising some1 19 y/o but you dont know how to pct so that means you didnt much research.
 
i obviously know the dosages you should take and all but.. i was just asking what is most used on a test e cycle as this is my first ever clomid,nolva,armidex pct
 
i obviously know the dosages you should take and all but.. i was just asking what is most used on a test e cycle as this is my first ever clomid,nolva,armidex pct

same as every pct from every cycle.. same dosage... no arimidex in pct; just clomid+nolva
 
First off, too young. But I can tell you're going to be stubborn as a mule so go ahead and fuck up your hpta before its even done developing.

Second, you don't even know how to cycle. A kick start is when you take a fast acting drug WITH test so by the time the fast acting drug is discontinued, the test has kicked in. So now you're going to drop the tbol, and have no test for 4 weeks while you lose your gains and wait for the test to kick in.

Also you don't drop the test when you run the winny, you run them together. Also whinny will mess up your lipids and ruin your joints.

Lastly if you don't know how to run a proper pct you are not even close to
Being ready.

But you won't listen so do yourself a favor and get a hormone panel done to check your levels then get them checked again after you cycle and come back and tell us were all wrong.
 
im going to continue running tbol on test e until week 6 (week 3 now) then continue with test on its own... followed by the hcg injection
im not even 100% sure about running winny yet, but from what i heard strength gains are lost around week 10-12 and running winny will restore those levels and make it more bearable to retain on PCT
i do know how to PCT ofc i just wanted someone to lay out the dosages so i can copy pasta to my word document lol
 
im going to continue running tbol on test e until week 6 (week 3 now) then continue with test on its own... followed by the hcg injection
im not even 100% sure about running winny yet, but from what i heard strength gains are lost around week 10-12 and running winny will restore those levels and make it more bearable to retain on PCT
i do know how to PCT ofc i just wanted someone to lay out the dosages so i can copy pasta to my word document lol

... google.. first link that comes up has a legit pct listed on it..... then come in here post it and ill tell you if its good or not........ come on man how can you be so lazy :|
 
Leg day exhaustion feels ahah... but yeah i was just waiting for someone to put it instead of people saying "YOUR NOT READY TO CYCLE YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT PCT IS"
 
Unreal, You verify the thoughts that most mature men have and that is , at nineteen you are naïve to the point of stupidity. For some that's just it. And so you must be stupid. Again sorry to the forum for d=saying thing like that but really men/women he need the straight talk because all this dancing around the truth is not doing him any good.

AS I said on another post if this forum and members go by "well my mind id made up" and so then we say lets guide him we are being irresponsible. Any kid van just come out and say they have though it out and they made up their minds NO MATTER WHAT WE SAY or the medical facts and testimonies. That in this case and others says FVCK you and your advice to not do it, but help me screw myself correctly. I want to screw myself the best way I can with your help. I respect what you know tat I want, BUT I don't RESPECT YOU.

This proposed cycle is not presented correctly at all leaving out important items. At his stats and age what is the Clen for but t screw with him. What is he doing with Winstrol at his weight and hight and BF% if he presented the truth. He might as well be a troll to hear our advice through our emotions.

With all that preaching, I hope some teaching to some, or food for thought come from it.

Kid I have no respect for this kind of thinking it is irresponsible and vain at best.

I will offer NO advice on any of your Q's. Go back to school, go to the gym and train and get the correct diet for yourself. You have NO business asking us for help concerning your cycle.

I am being encouraging in the fact that you need to listen and do the right thing. Maybe some of us agreeing on this will help you instead od being enablers. :dunno:
 
so what am i supposed to do with the £250 worth of gear in my house then frank zane???? ill just inject it into my dog
 
test takes 4 weeks to kick in hence why im taking tbol first and i may aswell maximize the results

You have no clue as to what you are doing, diet ?

Im fully aware of whats going to happen this decision has been on my mind for months im doing it at my own risk but thanks for the heads up.
Proof of stupid is as stupid does
i obviously know the dosages you should take and all but.. i was just asking what is most used on a test e cycle as this is my first ever clomid,nolva,armidex pct
No you don't. Your questions and how you laid this out shows no research
.
im going to continue running tbol on test e until week 6 (week 3 now) then continue with test on its own... followed by the hcg injection
im not even 100% sure about running winny yet, but from what i heard strength gains are lost around week 10-12 and running winny will restore those levels and make it more bearable to retain on PCT
i do know how to PCT ofc i just wanted someone to lay out the dosages so i can copy pasta to my word document lol

You know nothing about Winstrol. It is a low anabolic. It will not do what you think. Again you haven't a clue.

Leg day exhaustion feels ahah... but yeah i was just waiting for someone to put it instead of people saying "YOUR NOT READY TO CYCLE YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT PCT IS"

Who cares.........
 
KICKSTART is an oral/short estered injection for first 4 weeks where test e (long ester AAS)
this gives almost instant effect that you're on cycle
eg. 4-6 weeks of dbol,tbol,var winny, test prop

I KNOW WINSTROL IS LOW ANABOLIC IF YOU DIDNT NOTICE I POINTED OUT STRENGTH GAINS
 
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