1st cycle advice needed please

i2icho84

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Hey guys been lurking around here for a good 6 months to a year getting most of the information.

Need some advice please. Ive acquired all i need to get going just waiting on the pins to arrive 25g x 25mm

This is what i have at my disposal

2 x 10ml 250 test cyp
200 x blue heart dbols
100 x 12.5 aromasin
100 x 10mg Nolvadex

What im not really 100% sure about is if im going to run 500 test a week ( 2 x 1ml injections a week)
Or run 250 test (1 x 1ml injetion per week)

I was thinking of being conservative and stating my first cycle at 250 instead of 500 will this have a dramatic difference in gains made?

And would pinning once ever 7 days with 1ml be enough to keep blood levels regular. Or would it be better to go .5mls twice a week instead.

Also planing on running 30mg dbol ed for 6 weeks to Kickstart and also run 12.5 aromasin Ed from the start.
Being my first cycle will i need to run 12.5 aromasin from the get go? Or better to play it by ear so to speak?

Just trying to wrap my head around everything

32 years old
Currently leaned right down to 70kg so est 8%bf atm
My ideal dream size is 80-85kg at 8-10%
Been training 3 years consistently.
I know im not quite at my natrual potential yet but i cant wait another 5 years to get there.

Ive bulked to 80 a few times but just end up carrying way too much fat.
 
Welcome to the boards! I would say go with 500 test a week for a first cycle. how long do you want to do this cycle for? are you planning on doing bloodworks before, during and after?
 
No dbol first cycle. Read the stickies to find out why you should run test only first.
250mg is a TRT dose. Run 400-500/wk.
If you can't go from 70kg to 80kg without getting fat then you don't know enough about nutrition. Read up.
Ai should be run from the start of cycle.
You need a complete pct. keep reading.

Welcome.
 
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Welcome to the boards! I would say go with 500 test a week for a first cycle. how long do you want to do this cycle for? are you planning on doing bloodworks before, during and after?

Thanks! Pretty nervous and excited really. I'm planning the cycle for 10 weeks test 6 weeks 30mg dbol
Obviously then Nolva for PCT
And yes had some bloodwork done a few weeks ago just through the local GP i could only get bloodwork for

Test/free test
Test levels 484 free test 297
 
No dbol first cycle. Read the stickies to find out why you should run test only first.
250mg is a TRT dose. Run 400-500/wk.
If you can't go from 70kg to 80kg without getting fat then you don't know enough about nutrition. Read up.
Ai should be run from the start of cycle.
You need a complete pct. keep reading.

Welcome.

Thanks for the advice.
When i say "fat" i mean fat by my standards 15%bf at 80kg just carrying all my fat around lower back and love handles. Would realy love to get to 80 maybe 85 with minimal fat.
Looks like i will need to keep reading re PCT my plan way nolva 40mg for 2 weeks 20mg 2 weeks
 
Thanks for the advice.
When i say "fat" i mean fat by my standards 15%bf at 80kg just carrying all my fat around lower back and love handles. Would realy love to get to 80 maybe 85 with minimal fat.
Looks like i will need to keep reading re PCT my plan way nolva 40mg for 2 weeks 20mg 2 weeks
some reading now will save you alot of time in the future. Keep us posted.
 
Thanks for the advice.
When i say "fat" i mean fat by my standards 15%bf at 80kg just carrying all my fat around lower back and love handles. Would realy love to get to 80 maybe 85 with minimal fat.
Looks like i will need to keep reading re PCT my plan way nolva 40mg for 2 weeks 20mg 2 weeks

How tall are you?
 
Both.....surely.

Ok cool thanks again. Ive been reading and reading as much info as i can.
Only thing im not 100% on would i need HCG with this cycle. I have read conflicting things some people saying it's not necessary when you run Clomid/Nolvadex some people say yes and start it during cycle not at pct. Just confusing really.

Atm i will stick with clomid and nolva and have some hcg on hand if my balls don't come back to life

Thanks again
 
From what i have researched Clomid and Nolva are both SERM's so i would require one or the other not both surely.

Im 5'8 btw

yes run both .
think of your logic here, Clomid and nolva are both serms , so only run one or the other not both . well look at your cycle, test cyp and Dbol are both synthetically manufactured and modified 'natty' test .. yet your taking both at the same time . why ? cause they both work together for a better and amplified effect.
 
yes run both .
think of your logic here, Clomid and nolva are both serms , so only run one or the other not both . well look at your cycle, test cyp and Dbol are both synthetically manufactured and modified 'natty' test .. yet your taking both at the same time . why ? cause they both work together for a better and amplified effect.

Thanks. How does this look??

W1- 1ml test 250(sun/wed)30mg dbol ED 12.5 aromasin ED

W2 -2ml test 250(sun/wed)30mg dbol ED 12.5 aromasin ED

W3 - 2ml test 250(sun/wed)30mg dbol ED 12.5 aromasin ED

W4-2ml test 250(sun/wed)30mg dbol ED 12.5 aromasin ED

W5-2ml test 250(sun/wed)30mg dbol ED 12.5 aromasin ED

W6- 2ml test 250(sun/wed)30mg dbol ED 12.5 aromasin ED

W7-2ml test 250(sun/wed) 12.5 aromasin ED

W8-2ml test 250(sun/wed) 12.5 aromasin ED

W9-2ml test 250(sun/wed) 12.5 aromasin ED

W10-2ml test 250(sun/wed) 12.5 aromasin ED

2 weeks after last test

Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg

Hcg on hand if needed
 
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