1st cycle ever!
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what are you bumping this for? No one is gonna tell you Dbol only is good. Everyone agrees that you need to eat.
And the fact that you have aonly been training for 6 weeks means you gota longgggg way to go.
burlyman
Retired Competitor
As stated above, your caloric intake is key here. Even if you used some gear and gained a little size, if you didn't address your eating, you would lose every ounce of that muscle after you were done with the cycle. The body will go back to what it is able to maintain with the calories you are feeding it.
Secondly, Dbol is notorious for "blowing you up" and then deflating you like a balloon at the end. There are much better options, gear-wise, but before you even can think of that, you must address your caloric/protein intake.
I may have missed it above, but I don't know what your training is like, either. I think someone else mentioned the importance of this, so I won't go on.
Secondly, Dbol is notorious for "blowing you up" and then deflating you like a balloon at the end. There are much better options, gear-wise, but before you even can think of that, you must address your caloric/protein intake.
I may have missed it above, but I don't know what your training is like, either. I think someone else mentioned the importance of this, so I won't go on.
6 weeks huh? Man I clearly remember when I started lifting. I was 15 y/o about 6'4 and 165lb. Started eating some protein powder and just eating alot. Thats it. The first few month I was putting on 5 lbs /month for awhile. Arms were growing 1/2 inch/month also for awhile.
By 18 I was 235 and had grown another inch.
Point is you are 6 weeks into this. If you havn't gained a few pounds your diet is fucked. YOU HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. At this point for you the actual training doesn't matter so much. Just stay away from the shit with cables and the stuff that is fuckin chrome.
Read about diet, calories, protein, fat carbs, micronutrients whatever. Read about bench press, squats, deads, chin ups. Go get a fuckin tan. But it is just not the time to talk about steroids.
Get some creatine, a multi-vitamin pill. Go get some jello, shit, anything man.
Again, you said you were eating 1200 cal a day. I know this was revised to 2500 but just the fact you posted 1200 means you havn't read shit. Like RJ said this is like what a 12 year old chinese girl takes in while locked in the basement sewing dresses for lindsey lohan dolls 23.5 hours/day.
When i first started lifting, some of the oder guys asked me whats wrong with eating 1 steak. I was like, uh cholesterol i dont know. Answer is you didn't eat 2 steaks. Now I didn't eat meat so I switched this around some and to where it became "whats wrong with eating 1 yead of lettuce? you didn't eat 2"
whatever works for you man.
By 18 I was 235 and had grown another inch.
Point is you are 6 weeks into this. If you havn't gained a few pounds your diet is fucked. YOU HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. At this point for you the actual training doesn't matter so much. Just stay away from the shit with cables and the stuff that is fuckin chrome.
Read about diet, calories, protein, fat carbs, micronutrients whatever. Read about bench press, squats, deads, chin ups. Go get a fuckin tan. But it is just not the time to talk about steroids.
Get some creatine, a multi-vitamin pill. Go get some jello, shit, anything man.
Again, you said you were eating 1200 cal a day. I know this was revised to 2500 but just the fact you posted 1200 means you havn't read shit. Like RJ said this is like what a 12 year old chinese girl takes in while locked in the basement sewing dresses for lindsey lohan dolls 23.5 hours/day.
When i first started lifting, some of the oder guys asked me whats wrong with eating 1 steak. I was like, uh cholesterol i dont know. Answer is you didn't eat 2 steaks. Now I didn't eat meat so I switched this around some and to where it became "whats wrong with eating 1 yead of lettuce? you didn't eat 2"
whatever works for you man.
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milklover87
New member
WTF man..
Did i really just read 1200 calories?
At that rate you are probably losing weight every day.
Time to get back to the kitchen.
Did i really just read 1200 calories?
At that rate you are probably losing weight every day.
Time to get back to the kitchen.
randy841
New member
Not gonna be demeaning bro. We all have our set ways of eating and doing things, and what we think is right. But 1200-1600 calories daily - that is too low. You are constantly in a catabolic stage.
I'll tell you what i would do and what i did when i first started off, for 4 years - till starting 1st cycle last year. Doing first cycle in over 10+ years of training to break plateau. I started T/Enan last Nov 2010 for 20wks.
Size, strength, and weight can be put on naturally easily the first couple of years, until one reaches a peak threshold, after which the body will stop responding. At that point you should look into AAS, preferably Test enan or cyp - not dbol or any other oral.
For now taking into account your training history, diet, and experience you'll get better results taking creatine (optional glutamine, but better results to be expected if both combined) w/ protein powders and weight gainers over dbol. Save that for later.
As for dbol cost, i don't know if that is expensive or not. We have no idea how much you got it for and at what dosage each pill is. Those discussions are off bounds anyways on these forums. You can expect to pay anywhere from .18 cents to $1.00 for 5mg tabs.
Btw, here is what i would do.
Triple your calories minimum 3000 + add
Take 2 tea spoons Creatine daily (if adding glutamine - add equivalent amounts to creatine) (don't go for the purple K crap i.e. the pills). Remember like dbol you are also gonna gain alot of water, but that is what makes you strong and you are more likely to keep it than dbol. So don't be afraid to eat and drink water like a madman. Make sure you load 4 times first week - 7 days not 5. Workout days take before and after workout. Non workout days morning and night. Always take w/ simple sugars i.e. dextrose. I know everyone wants shortcuts w/ steroids, because they see all their friends doing it. Lay the foundation now, sculpt later w/ AAS IMHO. This obviously takes more time and preparation than popping a few dbol every hour, but well worth it. Either way you go creatine or dbol, both require adequate nutrition.
Secondly, add weight gainers before and after workout. Post workout - shake is a must. Preferably mix post workout shakes w/ whey protein. The shakes will give you another 1000 calories daily. Always take it w/ milk. When someone says they have a fast metabolism, it is more a case of not eating enough, this is you. Unless one is wasting away because of HIV, you should have no problem gaining on a wkly basis
Your training - focus on compounds i.e. bench, squat, barbell curls, dead-lifts.
Since i don't see details of your training or diet. I am just giving you details on how it should be done. You can improvise a little. Train no more than 5 times a week 4 sets each exercise - 4 to 12 reps.
Best of luck!
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