1st Cycle Newbie LF Advice

Kuukelite

New member
Good evening gents,

I am a new member on the boards, even though I have been reading here on and off for a couple of years. I would firstly like to thank everybody that has been putting in excellent posts with informative content over the years - a lot of my knowledge (while admittedly limited has come from these forums)!

I have made this post because I am gearing up for my first cycle. A little bit of background before I get stuck in... I have been training on and off for about 4 years in which I have gained decent knowledge on diet/training. I am currently on week 8/12 on a diet plan (aiming for sub 10% bf before I even think of my first cycle - I want to start in the best possible circumstances). Here is my before and current week 1/8 picture, as you can see I am not far off my BF goal. I will not be starting any cycle until I finish off my 12 weeks/hit my goal.

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Here is a quick bio (hopefully this helps with advice later down):

Age: 30
Height: 6ft
Weight: 173lbs
Training exp: 4ish years, on and off experience
Medical: Suffer from light male pattern baldness, no other medical conditions bar hay fever. Laid back mentality to everything. Generally worried about gyno.


I realise that you get flooded with newbies here asking these questions, so I can only say I appreciate your time and have spent many hours researching everything and considered my options before making the decision to commit to a cycle and post here. I have already acquired my Testosterone Enanthate and I am working on the rest before I start. I will not start this cycle before I have everything mapped out clear in my mind and sat in my drawer waiting! I also realise that diet is critical when training and that along with water intake will be spot on via a weekly updated macro.

With all the advice I have gained on posts here and wanting to keep my cycle to a simple starter one, here is what I have in mind:

Weeks 1-10:
- 500mg 'Testosterone Enanthate' per week
- 20mg 'Nolva' every other day (up it to 50mg if itchy nips)


Weeks 11–12:
- 20mg Nolva every other day (up to 50mg if itchy nips)


PCT
Day 1: 'Clomiphene Citrate' 300mg
Day 2-11: 'Clomiphene Citrate' 100mg p/d
Day 12-21: 'Clomiphene Citrate' 50mg p/d


I am prone to male pattern hair loss so as recommended on here would like to put Finastreside into my cycle but not sure about dosage/use. Researched the web for the information but cannot seem to locate. Does anybody have any advice on this?

I realise I have posted a lot of information here for somebody to read but I was really hoping somebody with experience would be kind enough to give my cycle a quick once over.

I am completely open to any criticism, and if somebody thinks I would benefit from a few months more weight training/diet (bearing in mind I have another month before I get ready for the cycle) I welcome your input.

Again I really appreciate your time reading this and I look forward to any comments you may have.

Regards,
K
 
Use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Arimidex or aromasin up until pct instead of nolva. Keep nolva on hand in case any gyno starts to appear. Add nolva to your post cycle therapy (pct). I would read up in the pct sticky to understand your doses. Good luck
 
Hi Metalhead/experienced guys,

I have adjusted my cycle as per the advice above, would a kind person mind giving it a quick once over to check I have the correct dose? I am about to order my sweeties going off this plan (not sure if I am taking too much Arimidex):

Weeks 1-10:
- 500mg 'Testosterone enanthate' per week
- 0.5 mg Arimidex p/d (Nolva 50mg e/o/d if gyno appears)


Weeks 11***8211;12:
- 0.5 mg Arimidex p/d (Nolva 50mg e/o/d if gyno appears)


PCT

Weeks 1-4: Clomid 50mg ED
Weeks 1-2: Nolva 20mg ED
Weeks 2-6 (PCT): Nolva 10mg ED

Also without going into too much detail, I have been lucky enough to find a "professional" source for the meds and he is asking me what strength I would like. I am not quite sure how to answer that, have you any experience with a question of that pedigree?

Regards,
K
 
You need to do more research before doing a cycle, regardless of if you have a "professional" source. Not to mention being as small as you are...I am 5'5" and 175 about to start my first cycle. You have a ways to go naturally.
 
Hopefully you listen to the other guys and wait till you put some meat on your bones. When you do cycle though extend it to at least 12 weeks and change your post cycle therapy (pct). You can do the first few days of clomid at 100 if you want but the normal protocol is clomid 50/50/25/25 and nolva 40/40/20/20. I would keep researching a little while longer and read all the stickies. You seem to have a little more knowledge than most of the guys who just come on here and want to do an oral only cycle so you're a little bit a head of the game. You just need to do some tweaking on your cycle.
 
Hey chaps,

I did take on your advice and I don't plan on starting the cycle until later this year and maybe next. I never throw away good advice! The reason I wanted to get it all set is because my brother is buying his clomid and I want everything sat in my drawer and sorted in advance as its playing on my mind. I've always been a prepare freak :)

I am annoyed because I researched the 50/50/25/25 & 40/40/20/20 on another thread, I must have messed it up putting it into my notes!! Bar that are you happy with a 12 week and the arimidex low dose every day?

Dennis I was actually going to aim for 190lbs, would you recommend waiting for the extra 10?

Regards,
K
 
I have edited again as per advice:

Weeks 1-12:
- 500mg 'Testosterone enanthate' per week
- 0.5 mg Arimidex p/d (Nolva 50mg e/o/d if gyno appears)

Weeks 13-14:
- 0.5 mg Arimidex p/d (Nolva 50mg e/o/d if gyno appears)

PCT

clomid
Week 1: 50mg ed
Week 2: 50mg ed
Week 3: 25mg ed
Week 4: 25mg ed

nolva
Week 1: 40mg ed
Week 2: 40mg ed
Week 3: 20mg ed
Week 4: 20mg ed
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I hope that is looking more like it?! Also this is going to be a stupid question so please don't laugh too hard - I have just sent off my order and he laughed at me saying each pill is 1mg

"Clomid - 1000mg
Nolva - 1000mg
Anastrozole - 42mg"

Have I got my order completely messed up? For instance PCT week 1 clomid is 50mg - surely thats not 50 pills hehe, guessing its 0.50 (half a pill).

Thanks again,
Kuuk
 
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Don't do .5 ed of adex that will kill all of your estrogen and you need some. With pct when we say 50/50/25/25 that means 50 mg ed for the first 2 weeks and 25 mg ed for the last 2 weeks.
 
Don't do .5 ed of adex that will kill all of your estrogen and you need some. With post cycle therapy (pct) when we say 50/50/25/25 that means 50 mg ed for the first 2 weeks and 25 mg ed for the last 2 weeks.

Fox, so the tablets are 1mg per pill, that means i need to take 50 pills every day?
 
Fox, so the tablets are 1mg per pill, that means i need to take 50 pills every day?

I think you're confused. Start of with .25mg (1/4 of a mg) of adex for starters. If your tabs are 1mg, cut them into 4 equal pieces. The clomid is what he's referring to in the post cycle therapy (pct). Your clomid should be dosed at 20-25mg a tab
 
Your a star thanks MH :)

So .25 adex per day throughout the cycle?

Start off with .25mg EOD (every other day) unless you start getting signs of high estro like Bloating, cramping, higher bp, then you can raise it to .5 eod. Get a blood test halfway through your cycle so you know where your levels are
 
Start off with .25mg EOD (every other day) unless you start getting signs of high estro like Bloating, cramping, higher bp, then you can raise it to .5 eod. Get a blood test halfway through your cycle so you know where your levels are

I cant thank you enough mate, would buy you a beer if I could! I have just ordered everything so my mind is finally at peace and I can focus on some serious diet/training for a few months before I start.

Again thanks for all your help/time and everybody else who has also helped me.

Regards,
K
 
I cant thank you enough mate, would buy you a beer if I could! I have just ordered everything so my mind is finally at peace and I can focus on some serious diet/training for a few months before I start.

Again thanks for all your help/time and everybody else who has also helped me.

Regards,
K

All good bud. Best of luck
 
Hi guys,

I have just done my last pin on week 10 :)

Weeks 1-10:
- 600mg 'Testosterone enanthate' (300 twice per week)
- 0.25 mg Arimidex eod

The results have been absolutely amazing with no side effects bar testicles shutting down as expected. Is it ok if I run my PCT past you again as it was a while since I wrote this and my cycle changed from 12 weeks to 10 (with a stronger oil)....?? Also would you guys extend the cycle another 2 weeks? (I can easily get another bottle of Test-E 300 but I am quite happy with what I have achieved without more!!)

Week 1-10:
completed as above

Week 11 & 12:
0.25 Arimidex eod

PCT:

clomid
Week 13: 50mg ed
Week 14: 50mg ed
Week 15: 25mg ed
Week 16: 25mg ed

nolva
Week 13: 40mg ed
Week 14: 40mg ed
Week 15: 20mg ed
Week 16: 20mg ed

I guess my question is do I really need the Nolva with such a basic Test only cycle - I have seen many posts saying just use the clomid and I wanted to check with you guys first in advance (I have all the meds on standby either way and don't mind not using the nolva as ill keep it as backup for my next cycle ((which will be an identical one))
 
Hi guys,

I have just done my last pin on week 10 :)

Weeks 1-10:
- 600mg 'Testosterone enanthate' (300 twice per week)
- 0.25 mg Arimidex eod

The results have been absolutely amazing with no side effects bar testicles shutting down as expected. Is it ok if I run my PCT past you again as it was a while since I wrote this and my cycle changed from 12 weeks to 10 (with a stronger oil)....?? Also would you guys extend the cycle another 2 weeks? (I can easily get another bottle of Test-E 300 but I am quite happy with what I have achieved without more!!)

Week 1-10:
completed as above

Week 11 & 12:
0.25 Arimidex eod

PCT:

clomid
Week 13: 50mg ed
Week 14: 50mg ed
Week 15: 25mg ed
Week 16: 25mg ed

nolva
Week 13: 40mg ed
Week 14: 40mg ed
Week 15: 20mg ed
Week 16: 20mg ed

I guess my question is do I really need the Nolva with such a basic Test only cycle - I have seen many posts saying just use the clomid and I wanted to check with you guys first in advance (I have all the meds on standby either way and don't mind not using the nolva as ill keep it as backup for my next cycle ((which will be an identical one))



The answer to your question is YES, Nolva & Clomid do two different things and when taken together you get a synergistic effect. Why would you even risk not having a full recovery when the recommended PCT is so widely endorsed?
 
The answer to your question is YES, Nolva & Clomid do two different things and when taken together you get a synergistic effect. Why would you even risk not having a full recovery when the recommended PCT is so widely endorsed?

Thanks mate just wanted the clarification. Does the PCT and after cycle look OK to you then? Thanks mate
 
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