1st Cycle, Test Prop

[PowerBuild]

I am starting my first cycle, and I am doing it with rather low doses. The reason for this is because I have taking a PH in the past and experience some small gyno. Here is what it looks like:

D-Bol @ 20mg/day for the first 2 weeks

Test Prop @ 100mg/week starting week 2

Test Prop Increases at 100mg/week until 400 is reached (week 4)

Test Prop pyramids down 100mg/week starting week 6.

Test Prop ends week 8 @ 200mg/week

RUI Clomi is started week 9

The whole cycle has Arimidex taken at 1mg every other day.

 

[Massive123]

Pyramiding isn't a great idea. Your levels are gonna be all over the place.

 

[PowerBuild]

Pyramiding isn't a great idea. Your levels are gonna be all over the place.

I would like to pyramid up in the beginning just to make sure it all goes well. Being my first cycle, I am a little nervous to start with 400mg/week. Perhaps I should start with 200mg, and ramp to 400mg sooner?

 

[Massive123]

I understand your concern but IMO your theory contradicts itself. You want to avoid sides so you're playing with blood levels to avoid them?? Was your ph gyno related to not running an AI? If you run a good Aromatase inhibitor (AI) gyno shouldn't be a problem at 100mg eod IMO. If it becomes one nuke it quickly and cut back to maybe 75mg eod. That's how I'd do it.

Someone else chime in here and throw some more opinions at this guy....

 

[PowerBuild]

I understand your concern but IMO your theory contradicts itself. You want to avoid sides so you're playing with blood levels to avoid them?? Was your ph gyno related to not running an AI? If you run a good Aromatase inhibitor (AI) gyno shouldn't be a problem at 100mg eod IMO. If it becomes one nuke it quickly and cut back to maybe 75mg eod. That's how I'd do it.

Someone else chime in here and throw some more opinions at this guy....

I understand what your saying. I guess I can just get over the nervous aspect and see what happens.

The PH I ran was the one from American Cellular. Which is the one that got all of the media attention because a whole soccer team (as well as many other individuals) had to have gyno surgery due to it. With every other PH, I would just hammer PCT and not use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during the cycle. I never noticed anything bad that way.

 

[PowerBuild]

Also, I cannot obtain any Clomid. I have heard good stuff about the RUI lineup, and have plans to run that post cycle therapy (pct). Is this acceptable?

 

[Massive123]

Yes rui is gtg

 

[surfdog]

test p will be out of ur system on the third day, so if ur worried about gyno you can stop it quickly if it pops up. I am using rui for my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and pct

 

[PowerBuild]

Thanks for the input guys. I'll probably poke myself this weekend and post my thoughts!

One other thing, I keep reading how test prop is "intolerable" for soreness at the injection site. Is it really that bad?

 

[surfdog]

Thanks for the input guys. I'll probably poke myself this weekend and post my thoughts!

One other thing, I keep reading how test prop is "intolerable" for soreness at the injection site. Is it really that bad?

It can be really depends on the quality of the gear

 

[Massive123]

Quality has little to do with it. It's more about how many mg per mL and how much of a virgin you are to the site & type of AAS. Some almost always hurt- even the best... Let the pain remind you how hard you need to work. No pain no gain!!!

 

[PowerBuild]

Quality has little to do with it. It's more about how many mg per mL and how much of a virgin you are to the site & type of AAS. Some almost always hurt- even the best... Let the pain remind you how hard you need to work. No pain no gain!!!

It is mixed at 100mg/ml, and I'm 100% virgin to the AAS world. Therefore, I am planning on some pain! It will all be worth it, like Massive says... No pain, No gain

 

[PowerBuild]

Did my first shot, 100mg in the right glute. No pain or soreness! Felt great, I was just nervous and shaking the whole time but it worked out.

Also, RUI has horrible customer service. I placed an order a week ago and emailed them about it. Heard nothing, so I emailed again this morning and still nothing.

 

[Massive123]

The injection itself doesn't usually hurt, it's the next day or 2 that the pain comes about. Hopefully you won't feel it, if you do cutting your shot with b12 or sterile oil helps dull out the pain a lot. I use sterile oil personally. Works wonders & my prop is 150mg/mL

good luck bro let us know how it goes

 

[thatotherguy]

Test Prop 100mg once a week ? How much you going to take every other day?

 

[PowerBuild]

Test Prop 100mg once a week ? How much you going to take every other day?

The original plan was to start with 100mg a week and work up to 400mg a week. I took the advice of a fellow board member and just started right in. I am taking 100mg EOD.

 

[PowerBuild]

So far...

Week 1
-20mg/day D-Bol

Week 2
-20mg/day D-Bol
-100mg/EOD Test Prop

I am just starting week 2

 

[PowerBuild]

Here are some stats:

Weight - 189
Height - 5' 8"
Bench - 360 1RM
DB Press - 120's 10 solid reps
Deadlift - 520 1RM
Front Squats - 225x12
Arms - 17.5" (pumped)

Not sure of the bodyfat, decent off season 6-pack and vascularity in the back, arms and shoulders. Maybe 9-12%

 

[PowerBuild]

The injection itself doesn't usually hurt, it's the next day or 2 that the pain comes about. Hopefully you won't feel it, if you do cutting your shot with b12 or sterile oil helps dull out the pain a lot. I use sterile oil personally. Works wonders & my prop is 150mg/mL

good luck bro let us know how it goes

How do you cut the shot with sterile oil? That is one thing I have not come across in my research.

And you are correct about the next day pain. It has been about 36 hours since the first shot, and earlier today it was fine but now I can feel it. Not too bad though!

I will keep you guys posted every other day or so to let you know how it is going. Thanks for the assistance so far

 

[Massive123]

I just add .5cc of it with the 1cc of prop. Works wonders...