Fish_easy23
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why would you consider the deca/dbol/test stack over the tren/test?Shh don't start yellin at people.
An first off how is that too much? You know tren is the strongest roid you can buy
why would you consider the deca/dbol/test stack over the tren/test?Shh don't start yellin at people.
An first off how is that too much? You know tren is the strongest roid you can buy
Help me out dude. I've pretty much made up my mind with the test and tren stack, being that everyone has only great things to say about the gains. What dosages pCT should I consider?You really need to read the stickies your cycle is all kinds of wrong!
Cycling for beginners...
you dont have an issue with genetics my friend.. you have an issue with your diet.. im 100% sure of that.. you dont need gear bro
You said you want mass an strength while still fast. Iv heard keeping up on cardio is hard on tren.
Also idk if you should run tren. Havin no experience. You don't give the keys of a Lamborghini to some still with a permit
Dude, that's false I started at 165 and If all you need was food than we wouldn't have such a growing number of users in the MLB. Trust me I have been playing at a division 1 school for 4 years now and almost all players in my league and in the MLB are on some form of steroids. You wouldn't know because you don't play baseball and your not involved in the baseball world...but I am its my whole fuc*&ing life! which is why I am willing to take this 3rd cycle regardless of the side effects. So, if you don't want to help me with plan than pick on somebody else.
One last thing, I know my gains have been small but thats because both times I took 1 10ml bottle of Wini-V thats it.
If you're hell bent here you go. I agree with what other before have said. This is your first real cycle so I'd suggest test @ 500mg/week for 10-15 weeks depending on how long you are comfortable running a cycle. Use test e or c if pinning is an issue. You can pin those two every 3.5 days. Prop is your other option. Lots of folks say it keeps you leaner and reduces bloat. Idk if I agree. Ran them all and my diet and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) help decide how lean I look. W the prop you'll need to pin every other day which can be problematic for newbies. Def never run Winstrol (winny) again as a baseball player. It dries you out and is rough on the ligiments. IF you must throw in an oral if suggest anavar @50mg/day for the last 6 weeks. Again the best advice is to tweak your diet as others before me have said. Also, you need to research pct and have ALL OF THAT BEFORE YOUR FIRST PIN. In your original post you have listed nolva durning cycle. Just don't. That's an old school technique. Now run a real Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like aremidex or aromasin. You have some room to grow naturally but what I've given you is a solid first cycle.
Shit, sorry. You play baseball, not basketball. I would actually expect you to be considerably larger being a baseball player than a basketball player though. And I was a gymnast at a Division 1 school, I know what it takes to compete among the best. Either way, best thing you can do is read all the stickies at the top of the forums. Valuable information, and accurate, too.
Ever thought that the reason there were no tren doses in the link to "Cycling for Beginners" is because you shouldnt use tren as a beginner?
I am a pro strength athlete and willingly abuse my body, but wont run tren until about 4 weeks out from a meet because of the side effects.
Really all I want to know is if my dosages are correct. I'm stuck on the Tren/test stack because thats what a lot of pitchers do and have amazing results. I have had blood work done and Im fine in all aspects, so Im ready to jump into this stuff, can you help me out. I want to know what support supplements you would take to minimize side effects and also problems that may occur further down the road
Honestly, I would tell you to wait, but since you've already delved into exogenous hormones before I can't. What's done is done. The best thing you can do is get bloodwork done and see where your levels are currently. I've heard of baseball players running winstrol only cycles around the Texas area, but a test base is a must. The human body uses testosterone for much more than muscle building, and injecting hormones will hinder/halt this natural production. I wouldn't run tren. I can't imagine the pains those guys must get pitching on the stuff. Testosterone is all you need. All that information and more is in the stickies at the top of the forums. But like I said, get bloodwork done and see where your levels are at.
Can you just answer this question please, Im getting a bit desperate to get the information I am looking for. Listen, I know this isnt the best idea in the world and I know Im going to have some side effects. But, Im going to do this! can you please give some good dosages you would take and a complete list of support supplements. Also , Obviously Im going to need a great PCT so what would you recommencement their?
If, this is all in speculation, someone was going to run test and tren for the first time... they should already have 5 or so cycles under their belt, know how to manage e2, know how to manage progesterone and prolactin, be emotionally stable, and have a regimented program and diet....